The BA timbre in it certainly is not the worst but not the best either. I feel it is very average BA timbre. Which to me is unnatural since DDs are better at having a more natural timbre.
As I stated. I will wait until I have heard the T180/DT100 before I comment more on it.
In my world, there are timbre I will describe as natural/organic and realistic. The realistic timbre is something like the TSMR 4Pro, bgvp vg4, orvieti oh300, the nature and organic timbre is something like the penon orb, dunu sa3, final e5000... . For unnatural timbre I will said something like Ikko oh1, trn v90s, and some of cheap hybrid set.
It sounds like you are mistaking the timbre for tonality.
Tonality is when I describe warm, netural, cold, v shape, l shape, w shape... don’t know where I get wrong.
Timbre can only be natural or unnatural. Because a piano will sound like a piano due to the timbre but if it is out of tune you could say its tonality is wrong while the timbre wont change.
Agree, timbre of TSMR-4Pro BAs isn't the most natural for the money. Mostly in treble area. But I like it's neutrality and speed. Using it with occ cable and switch to 123 or 0(1)20.
yeah, the treble and the bass (due to lack of texture/air) makes it not very natural. Mids are good though, but outclassed by the Tanchjim Oxygen.
I do agree the piano lack on bit of the DD’s texture, but I find out the treble is really accurate and realistic, especially for instrument like flute, violin, trumpets...
The iems you listed arent exactly known for their natural timbre. I suggest you get the Tanchjim Oxygen, it might help you understand why the tsmr 4 pro isnt natural.
I sold my oxygen, really muddy bass and treble lack of energy, don’t know if it’s cause by fit.
yeah, you probably had bad fit. Muddy bass and lack of treble energy are definitely not the Oxygen.
Any IEMs have same signature as oxygen, tried the starfield before, and it sound muddy and muddy.
No idea, I stopped looking specifically for iems with that signature after I got it.
