T+A Solitaire P planar magnetostatic

Dec 13, 2020 at 12:28 PM Post #181 of 3,594
My point is however, that headphones in this price bracket should be true high fidelity headphone with at least more or less flat (neutral, uncolored) frequency response within the human hearing range. Unfortunately, the Solitaire P is not a hi-fi headphone in this sense.
I definitely agree with you 100% on this point, but it is possible that T+A view this differently.

T+A clearly has the means and capability to make a product that measures and sounds "flat" ... assuming they agree that the Harman curve is the correct target to use. The fact that they deviated to the extent they have can only mean they were deliberately going after a somewhat different signature to perhaps provide a different interpretation of what is correct. It is for this reason that many of us in this hobby have many headphones, multiple systems and prefer different seats in a concert hall.

Hearing different perspectives on a performance is fun and I guess companies like T+A and Final do not believe the ability to deliver these perspectives should be limited to inexpensive headphones. The question is at this price range how many people are willing to invest in a perspective that deviates to this extent? Ultimately the market will answer this question.

With the new pads the Solitaire P is appealing to me because of build quality and the fact that it is different without varying too far from what is considered to be the truth. At the right price it would complement my Utopias, but never replace it. Unfortunately, for me the current suggested retail price is definitely not the right price!
 
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Dec 14, 2020 at 8:06 AM Post #182 of 3,594
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Dec 15, 2020 at 12:26 AM Post #183 of 3,594
Utopia can make a strong impression, but for long listening it can make me a little bit headaches (may be due to very sharp sound).
I fond that both pair great with Heimdall 2 cable, don’t use stock cable for highend headphone
 

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Dec 17, 2020 at 4:55 AM Post #185 of 3,594
Turns out I am the first person to ever inquire about a Norne cable for the Solitaire P.
I will be getting a unit on a loan and want to test it with the right cable.
 
Dec 17, 2020 at 8:09 AM Post #187 of 3,594
Turns out I am the first person to ever inquire about a Norne cable for the Solitaire P.
I will be getting a unit on a loan and want to test it with the right cable.

I will also get a unit hopefully for the weekend drive, and compare it to my D8000. I am very excited! :L3000:
 
Dec 17, 2020 at 8:15 AM Post #188 of 3,594
I will also get a unit hopefully for the weekend drive, and compare it to my D8000. I am very excited! :L3000:
Make sure to post your impressions ;)
 
Dec 17, 2020 at 3:34 PM Post #190 of 3,594
Dec 18, 2020 at 8:08 AM Post #191 of 3,594
Just seen on T+A website the Solitaire P is now available in a SE version, in black and the specs slightly different, easier to drive main difference, and lighter by 90g as less metal and subsituted for plastic may look at getting a pair for my T+A SDV 3100 HV and with that sensitivity i should be able to take advantage of the pure class A output of the headphone amp.

Solitaire P-SE
Impedance
45 Ohms
Frequency responce
8 Hz-45 kHz
Distortion
< 0,015 % @ 100 dB
Type of construction
open, over ear
 
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Dec 18, 2020 at 8:23 AM Post #192 of 3,594
Just seen on T+A website the Solitaire P is now available in a SE version, in black and the specs slightly different, easier to drive main difference, and lighter by 90g as less metal and subsituted for plastic may look at getting a pair for my T+A SDV 3100 HV and with that sensitivity i should be able to take advantage of the pure class A output of the headphone amp.

Solitaire P-SE
Impedance
45 Ohms
Frequency responce
8 Hz-45 kHz
Distortion
< 0,015 % @ 100 dB
Type of construction
open, over ear
It is actually a different headphone with different drivers, wonder how it sounds in comparison.
 
Dec 18, 2020 at 8:26 AM Post #193 of 3,594
Just seen on T+A website the Solitaire P is now available in a SE version, in black and the specs slightly different, easier to drive main difference, and lighter by 90g as less metal and subsituted for plastic may look at getting a pair for my T+A SDV 3100 HV and with that sensitivity i should be able to take advantage of the pure class A output of the headphone amp.

Solitaire P-SE
Impedance
45 Ohms
Frequency responce
8 Hz-45 kHz
Distortion
< 0,015 % @ 100 dB
Type of construction
open, over ear

Are they going to follow the footsteps of HFM, I wonder. Solitaire P just landed on my desk two hours ago...

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Dec 18, 2020 at 8:29 AM Post #194 of 3,594
It is actually a different headphone with different drivers, wonder how it sounds in comparison.

I could be wrong but it looks like the same driver to me, just tuned differently i suspect, i will ask Bernd at T+A for info
 
Dec 18, 2020 at 8:36 AM Post #195 of 3,594
T+A Creates A More Affordable Version Of Stunning Solitaire P Planar Headphones

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marksp...olitaire-p-planar-headphones/?sh=427003af790b

The new Solitaire P-SE headphones also reflect another innovation in terms of the company’s product nomenclature. The company’s naming strategy is designed to clearly show the technological series to which each product belongs, but still clearly indicates which model is the flagship of the series. This is the rationale behind using the SE suffix, and it will be used to define the entry-level model in each series.

The new Solitaire P-SE planar headphones will be available from 25 January, 2021, priced at $3,600 / £3,000.
 
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