[djembeplay]

Hey,

I was just doing a little reading and it sounds like most people are using either ASIO or WASAPI with Vista.

Until tonight, I was under the impression that it was frivolous to bypass the default sound drivers that Vista uses because the sound was improved to the point of being equivalent to ASIO...

Is there advantage to using ASIO or WASAPI?

 

[FallenAngel]

Uhm... yeah, you get to bypass the KMixer.

 

[myinitialsaredac]

Yes there is,
As said above you get to bypass the mixer, though its not on the kernel level in vista anymore so i think they came up with a new name to spread their evil further.
Dave

 

[shaddix]

I thought you could tell vista to output 16bit/44.1khz. So as long as you're not doing anything else it should be just fine correct?

 

[djembeplay]

Wow, so KMixer is still a problem in Vista, huh?

shaddix- I can output 16/44... soooo I'm still in the black as to why exactly we would want to bypass the kmixer...

 

[HeadLover]

Why do you think KMixer is a problem in Vista? I think it got a much better sound than XP - way better!

 

[djembeplay]

well, I downloaded the Wasapi exclusive plugin for foobar... I'll have my rig complete soon... I'll give it a comparison test.

Is this all that is needed for installation... to download the foobar plug-in and activate it within foobar interface?

 

[HeadLover]

Yep, that is all!
The same for ASIO (but you need to config it first, you will see a new tab for it)and don't forget to choose it on the output.

 

[johnation33]

I'm using vista and I can tell you ASIO sounds better. The difference is subtle, but there is more clarity. It's not just me, I had my family blind test it to (didn't tell them which one had the "supposed better quality") just used the same song and played it (random order) and they said the one with ASIO sounds better. So I know its not just placebo for my ears.

 

[Trepid!ty]

Unless you have 'allow applications to take exclusive control of this device' and 'give exclusive mode applications priority' UNTICKED, I don't think you will notice a difference.

If you can I'd like to know what you're using, sound card\cpu\ram\player\file type\bitrate.

Auzentech Prelude on RC-8 driver can output at up to 24Bit-192KHz if it's told to by the application. I can't notice a dif with my FLAC library - even have a few vinyls ripped to flac and they come in at 3Mbps.

DTS-MA 2.0 from some of my blurays comes in at 8Mbps+, I don't know how to test the blurays with ASIO though as I think it'd need a plugin for the software player (I use arcsoft TotalTheatre).

PS After listening to DTS-MA I want EVERYTHING in this format...

 

[djembeplay]

Gigabyte DQ6 (Motherboard)\Core 2 Duo 6400\4 Gigs PC800\Foobar2000\FLAC lossless\varied...

I actually probobly should have mentioned something earlier... I'm running digital out of my motherboard to an external DAC... so I don't even use an internal soundcard w/ a DAC. Is using ASIO / Wasapi still advantageous when one is just running digital out?

 

[HeadLover]

I am using both of them - so far both are the exact same !
They both bit perfect, (no kmixer), and I am using Vista 64 bit.
But
ASIO4ALL seem to run faster and need less memory.

 

[djembeplay]

So what additional steps do I need to take to install ASIO4ALL (besides installing the foobar codec and activating it)?

 

[HeadLover]

Quote:

Originally Posted by djembeplay /img/forum/go_quote.gif So what additional steps do I need to take to install ASIO4ALL (besides installing the foobar codec and activating it)?

ASIO4ALL - Universal ASIO Driver
And install ASIO plugin for foobar2000
And than you are going to the options section in foob, and choose it as an output.

You will see, really not that hard

 

[shaddix]

I use wasapi, a little easier to setup