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Nov 16, 2021 at 4:50 AM Post #362 of 3,068
Did anyone compare the X9000 and HIFIMAN SHANGRI-LA sr headphones?
I consider to order one of them and it is difficult to chose. The price of SHANGRI-LA amp is too expensive so I don’t consider.
 
Nov 16, 2021 at 5:17 AM Post #363 of 3,068
Did anyone compare the X9000 and HIFIMAN SHANGRI-LA sr headphones?
I consider to order one of them and it is difficult to chose. The price of SHANGRI-LA amp is too expensive so I don’t consider.
As good a reason as any, to not consider a Hifiman product.
 
Nov 16, 2021 at 11:24 AM Post #365 of 3,068
There is an old saying that never buy anything from Hifiman.
I'm curious if there are actually any statistics that prove that point. My personal experience does not support this. I'm owning 4 Hifiman headphones and all of them never had any issues.
Those of my headphones which needed repairs, had driver failures and were then not even properly repaired were actually made in USA ...
 
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Nov 16, 2021 at 11:31 AM Post #366 of 3,068
There is an old saying that never buy anything from Hifiman.
Susvara is awesome

But yeah I’d agree especially when it comes to paying for an electrostatic. SGL JR is nice and definitely has a great sound but isn’t worth comparing imo. Stick with stax. Stick Stax.
I'm curious if there are actually any statistics that prove that point. My personal experience does not support this. I'm owning 4 Hifiman headphones and all of them never had any issues.
Those of my headphones which needed repairs, had driver failures and were then badly repaired were actually made in USA ... (not naming any brands but not hard to guess ...)
I’m never buying Audeze again after all I went through with them. The CRBN sounds appealing but I need others to own them for a while before I’d consider.
 
Nov 16, 2021 at 12:12 PM Post #367 of 3,068
I'm curious if there are actually any statistics that prove that point. My personal experience does not support this. I'm owning 4 Hifiman headphones and all of them never had any issues.
Those of my headphones which needed repairs, had driver failures and were then not even properly repaired were actually made in USA ...
I have owned the original HE-6, HE1000 v1 and HE1000se. Now own the Susvara.
I have never had any problems with them BUT I do have a problem with some of their pricing.

I bought the Susvara until I was able to buy them at a more competitive price and not at the $6,000 msrp.

I cannot justify the price of the Shangri-la amp and Sr headphones. I have never listen to them because in every show I have been they were not working for multiple reasons.

If I was spending that kind of money I would go with the Sennheiser HE-1 system which I have listened to for extended period of time twice.

I have never been an Audeze fan for two reasons: House sound (to dark for my taste) but mainly reliability.

I was considering the CRBN but after some feedback from a friend who listen to them on an amplifier similar to mine (RSA A-10 Thunderbolt) I confirm my decision to place an order for the X9000 was the right one…. Now is the wait until I receive them (probably end of the year or early January).
 
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Nov 16, 2021 at 12:20 PM Post #368 of 3,068
Susvara is awesome

But yeah I’d agree especially when it comes to paying for an electrostatic. SGL JR is nice and definitely has a great sound but isn’t worth comparing imo. Stick with stax. Stick Stax.

I’m never buying Audeze again after all I went through with them. The CRBN sounds appealing but I need others to own them for a while before I’d consider.
Suavara is probably the only headphone from Hifiman that do not depreciate more than half in value in 1 year.

The price control of HIFIMAN is horrible. The build quality sometimes good sometimes bad, Susvara is probably good. But Shangri-La I can't say it is good.

The reason that Shangri-La pricing at so high is because, first they want to set it as a flagship product, secondly the defective rate is very high. You always see Shangri-La fail for many many reasons. The Shangri-La Jr is quality is better, defective rate is well controlled, but the build quality is horrible.

I don't see any point of purchasing a Shangri-La Jr unless you really prefer the sound signature. I admit the sound of HIFIMAN is top level. But I wouldn't buy any of their product anymore.
 
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Nov 16, 2021 at 12:27 PM Post #369 of 3,068
I'm curious if there are actually any statistics that prove that point. My personal experience does not support this. I'm owning 4 Hifiman headphones and all of them never had any issues.
Those of my headphones which needed repairs, had driver failures and were then not even properly repaired were actually made in USA ...

If you are happy to buy a new headphone for $1500 and after one year the second hand value drops to $500 then you can go ahead to buy their product.

I used to have a Edition X. They advertised for 10,000 CNY for the new one and I purchased it for 7,500 new. After one year I can only sell it for 3,700 and it took me around 2 months to sell it.

I admit Susvara, Shangri-La and Shangri-La JR are very good sounding headphones, but I wouldn't buy something from them again. There are so many good headphones that can keep a very good 2nd hand value, why should I go buy something that piss myself?
 
Nov 16, 2021 at 7:30 PM Post #370 of 3,068
Suavara is probably the only headphone from Hifiman that do not depreciate more than half in value in 1 year.

The price control of HIFIMAN is horrible. The build quality sometimes good sometimes bad, Susvara is probably good. But Shangri-La I can't say it is good.

The reason that Shangri-La pricing at so high is because, first they want to set it as a flagship product, secondly the defective rate is very high. You always see Shangri-La fail for many many reasons. The Shangri-La Jr is quality is better, defective rate is well controlled, but the build quality is horrible.

I don't see any point of purchasing a Shangri-La Jr unless you really prefer the sound signature. I admit the sound of HIFIMAN is top level. But I wouldn't buy any of their product anymore.
I truly believe the price of the Shangri-La system was set based on the price of the Sennheiser HE-1 as marketing strategy trying to say they are at the same level.

In my opinion the prices are the only thing close. In The rest the Sennheiser is well ahead by a lot.
 
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Nov 16, 2021 at 7:46 PM Post #371 of 3,068
Did anyone compare the X9000 and HIFIMAN SHANGRI-LA sr headphones?
I consider to order one of them and it is difficult to chose. The price of SHANGRI-LA amp is too expensive so I don’t consider.

When the X9000 gets here, I'll be comparing it. But I don't anticipate receiving them any time soon.

Everyone is correct on build quality and price of the Shangri-La. And it's unfortunate and that's on Hifiman. Hopefully at some point they improve that ratio for all of their headphones, but I don't have any faith.

However, the Shangri-La Sr. is easily the greatest and most complete headphones I've ever heard (at least for my preferences). I would easily take them over everything I have owned recently, including everything in my signature. And that's not because I paid for them (again the price is really stupid in my opinion, although more digestible buying the headphones separate without the amp and from a dealer discounted), it's because they are truly that good sonically. So certainly I wouldn't let anyone that hasn't heard or owned them sway your opinion on them.

Again, I'll report back as soon as I can. The SGL is considerably better than the 009, and it's quite easily noticeable, but if the x9000 also is as some are suggesting, it'll be a very interesting comparison. :)
 
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Nov 17, 2021 at 5:01 PM Post #373 of 3,068
I compared the SR009S to the SGL and the latter was clearly better to my ears. I have purchased the SGL since and enjoy it a lot, better than my other cans.
I should be able to compare the SGL to the X9000 and the CRBN early next year and report my findings then.
 
Nov 17, 2021 at 6:52 PM Post #374 of 3,068
What is the street price of the SGL?
 
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