[marvin]

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Originally Posted by ZephyrSapphire /img/forum/go_quote.gif You Have Every Right To Be Angry: The Government Wants To Kill The Internet - Gizmodo Australia

Those arguments are frankly terrible. They're all technical issues that can be solved, so while a accurate and functional filter may not work today, there's no reason they won't work in a few years. And "killing the internet" is ridiculous hyperbole. The proposals won't kill the internet, just regulate them like governments have regulated pretty much every single other form of communication. Governments, understandably, often see the internet as just another form of broadcast communication. All other such forms of media are subject to stringent restrictions and there's really no reason from many government's perspective that the internet should be exempt.

Really, the only protection from government censorship on the internet is in whatever freedom of speech protections are provided by the country's laws. In America, our strong right to freedom of expression provides extensive protection from government interference. But, that's a fairly unique position, even in first world countries. Even citizens of countries such as Australia and Canada have no expressed right to freedom of speech. Governments can and do prosecute individuals for speech that would be perfectly legal in America.

 

[bowraboy]

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Originally Posted by marvin /img/forum/go_quote.gif Those arguments are frankly terrible. They're all technical issues that can be solved, so while a accurate and functional filter may not work today, there's no reason they won't work in a few years. And "killing the internet" is ridiculous hyperbole. The proposals won't kill the internet, just regulate them like governments have regulated pretty much every single other form of communication. Governments, understandably, often see the internet as just another form of broadcast communication. All other such forms of media are subject to stringent restrictions and there's really no reason from many government's perspective that the internet should be exempt. Really, the only protection from government censorship on the internet is in whatever freedom of speech protections are provided by the country's laws. In America, our strong right to freedom of expression provides extensive protection from government interference. But, that's a fairly unique position, even in first world countries. Even citizens of countries such as Australia and Canada have no expressed right to freedom of speech. Governments can and do prosecute individuals for speech that would be perfectly legal in America.

I think a lot of people are using that argument to get people up in arms who aren't so sympathetic to the freedom of the net argument.

Most people in Australia are sheep and don't seem to care that our freedom and privacy have slowly been eroded over the years. The Liberal Government we had for the last 12 years constantly used fear as a tactic to increase "security", which was a way to remove our freedoms.

We have gone from a right wing (Liberal) Government to a not so right wing (Labor) Government pretending to be left.

They're all Fascists.

 

[chadbang]

I have a 6 and a 14 year old who are on the net all the time when I'm at work. I wish there were some kinds of block on poorn. I don't know a browser that completely blocks it at your choice. I would actually welcome government intervention filtering it. frankly, I could live without a constant barrage of hard core ****. I would say 50 percent of it these days goes too far with violence and degradation. Stuff rots your mind a bit. And don't hand me the free speech crap. I couldn't buy Playboys growing up when i was a kid -- Why should 6 year old be able to watch bondage and torture poorn when ever they accidently stumble upon it? Someone said "Why do retards insist on filtering instead of educating children about sexuality, which is a natural part of being a human being?" Dude, you must be watching filtered pron already. I see a lot of sick stuff out there that I never would have dreamed of as a kid. I don't think I want my kids growing up thinking having your nipple nailed to a wall is "natural." But its not going to be government that kills the "freedom" of the web, it business. The future of the Web is advertising. It's going to look just like tv eventually. With full commericals and full page ads before getting to content becoming the norm. Google is testing it. The other day for about 10 minutes you couldn't call up a news story without getting a full page ad first. That was for every link. They must have been testing usage or how surfers responded. Yep, if you think the web is going to be a big free for all forever, you're dead wrong.

 

[skiingemt]

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Originally Posted by nickdawg /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yeah, I think that's one of the "buzzwords" that these forum censors looks for. I was reading a post on another forum and I couldn't figure out what **** meant. Then I realized that PØRN fit there. I really don't know why PØRN is censored yet pornography is not. What, we cannot even talk about it?

In defense of this forum, some of us that have been around awhile may remember how this started... DIY'ers posting pics of amp internals we're using the word p*rn enough that some people's workplace internet filters were blocking Head-Fi. The ban was simply to keep Head-Fi available to people with filters, which seems appropriate considering the thread topic. Moral of the story- blame the DIY'ers (I'm just jealous because I can't figure out electronics

) Although I suppose p*rn is kind of for DIY anyway...

<ahem>

Sorry.