[jagwap]

You also have to take into account the driver size, since headphones definitely have bigger drivers than IEMs.

Sure, but sensitivity is the numerical spec that takes care of that.  Also IEMs are closer to the ear drum.
 
They wont drive their own portable headphones well, or Beats, which has to be a market placement error.

 

[HiyakeIchirou]

Sure, but sensitivity is the numerical spec that takes care of that.  Also IEMs are closer to the ear drum.

They wont drive their own portable headphones well, or Beats, which has to be a market placement error.

That's why you have USB DACs and portable amps like Fiio E6, which I'm using with my phone.

 

[jagwap]

That's why you have USB DACs and portable amps like Fiio E6, which I'm using with my phone.

Sure. I'm seriously considering a Pono, but I still think a phone headphone socket should be compatible with average portable headphones.

 

[Kepller]

any audio impressions for the z3+?

 

[jagwap]

any audio impressions for the z3+?

Quiet.

 

[HiyakeIchirou]

any audio impressions for the z3+?

It can support Hi-Res Audio but it has a low audio output which means you will need to pair it with a decent amp.

 

[Kepller]

It can support Hi-Res Audio but it has a low audio output which means you will need to pair it with a decent amp.

oic, from the break down it seems it is using only one amp instead of 2 amps which the Z3 had

 

[HiyakeIchirou]

oic, from the break down it seems it is using only one amp instead of 2 amps which the Z3 had

If you had the budget you might as well go for a ZX2 which is quite decent.

 

[pc167pc]

too expensive for a sony device, and there is no creation, looks forward to Z4 ..

 

[HiyakeIchirou]

too expensive for a sony device, and there is no creation, looks forward to Z4 ..

Technically the Z3+ is the Z4, only Japan calls it Z4. Had something to do with naming issues. For this few months look out for oneplus two and samsung note 5. Sony Z5 maybe a year or so.

 

[thepooh]

It can support Hi-Res Audio but it has a low audio output which means you will need to pair it with a decent amp.

AFAIR the z3+ is louder than my z3 which is already loud enough for my needs, maybe you got a capped unit???

 

[HiyakeIchirou]

AFAIR the z3+ is louder than my z3 which is already loud enough for my needs, maybe you got a capped unit???

Looks like you're using low impedance IEMs. Did you try with a high impedance headphone? Because it sure sounds soft even on max volume with my PRO700MKIIs

 

[thepooh]

Looks like you're using low impedance IEMs. Did you try with a high impedance headphone? Because it sure sounds soft even on max volume with my PRO700MKIIs

A smartphone is not ideal to drive professional studio headphones

You'll need a dedicated dap with a powerful amp or at least an HTC flagship coz I used and tried several smartphones, the Z3 is just about 5% quieter than average which should be enough for iems and portable on ear headphones of up to 40 ohms. Anything above 40 ohms are usually considered for specific usage ( monitoring, djing and audiophile needs paired with a decent amp) but not for music OTG through a smartphone's audio output.

 

[HiyakeIchirou]

A smartphone is not ideal to drive professional studio headphones

You'll need a dedicated dap with a powerful amp or at least an HTC flagship coz I used and tried several smartphones, the Z3 is just about 5% quieter than average which should be enough for iems and portable on ear headphones of up to 40 ohms. Anything above 40 ohms are usually considered for specific usage ( monitoring, djing and audiophile needs paired with a decent amp) but not for music OTG through a smartphone's audio output.

It's up to user preference. I currently use a Fiio E11 with my S6. The reason I don't use IEMs is because my ears hurt a lot after I use them for a long time. Custom IEMs cost a lot so I'll rather settle with headphones.

 

[Yaku22]

I also noticed it did have better clear+ than z3.the audio optimisation is make the sound much more live.even with my superlux 681 XD