RockStar2005
Headphoneus Supremus
Hey Eagle,
Hope your trip went well.
Yeah I took the DT1770 off my list. I didn't catch the 250 ohm spec earlier. I have NO interest in a desktop setup. Well I'll keep an eye on the MrSpeakers headphones too.
So wait, balanced headphones won't work on the HA-2? Why do you say that? Doesn't the other end of that balanced cable just have 1 connector anyway? I never thought that would be an issue.
Ya know, I just found out that AKG makes a highly-rated bluetooth version of the K545 or K550 headphone (reviews I've read describe sound signature closer to K550, though they say it's closer to K545 b/c size is smaller than K550 like K545 is, but I don't agree on sound b/c they say K545 is bassy and these aren't...... well, not AS bassy as the K545 appear to be lol).................the AKG K845BT. I really like that they made these because for people I know who don't like wired headphones, these are a PERFECT choice b/c they offer that great neutral AKG sound and bluetooth too, and look JUST like the K550/K553 as well! Yeah, the K553 sounds slightly better than the K550, but I think these will probably still sound MUCH better than most bluetooth headphones in the under $500 range, and even most wired headphones in that range as well, and they only run for about $280 on Amazon. I'm considering trying these out sometime soon. If I do, I'll post a comparison of them vs. K553. One great thing about these is that they actually COME with the option to connect a cable to them for when you don't want to use the battery. They say a SLIGHT bump in volume and sound quality is apparent when using the cable, but only a tiny one. For me tiny is still something lol, but I mean the idea that people can hear pretty much exactly what I hear with K553 but on a pair of wireless headphones is just fantastic to me. I want EVERYONE to hear what I hear, even wireless headphone lovers! lol
Anyway......... why would you be hooking up the A17 to an external DAC? I don't get why people mix them together. If that's what you're gonna do, you might as well just play off your phone like I do. The DAC on the A17 is already great, but if it's "not enough" for you, then you should just get a more expensive DAP. The whole point (to me anyway) of a DAP is that you don't NEED to have an in-between device (i.e. like the HA-2) b/c your source player is already premium quality.
So you're using digital coax cables b/c of the FiiO X3ii? Man, get rid of that thing already. It's 2016 lol. F coax cables. lol Too many great USB to Micro USB options out there to let yourself be confined to coax. The A17 uses a proprietary USB cable, but whatever. It's still USB.
Yeah sounds like you wanna go same route as me (phone/player to HA-2 to headphones), which is cool. Yeah let me know. And remember to get that extension cable too for iPhone if you buy HA-2. That link I gave you gives you different lengths and options. The cables that come with HA-2 are only about 6 inches, which to me is too short. I like 3-4' cables the best. Not too long, not too short.
HA-2 dressed in a tux? I like it. lol It is a DAMN CLASSY piece of electronic machinery. The FiiO E18K comes close, but doesn't look AS cool, and also from what I've read, the HA-2 sounds slightly better too. But they are both are identical feature-wise.
When you say you don't keep Hi-Res files in your library, does that mean you DO buy & downsample them like I do, or that you just don't ever get any Hi-Res music period? I hope it's the former. lol I JUST got Elton John's classic album "Honky Chateau" in DSD (considered 1 step above Hi-Res) from Acoustic Sounds (no one else offers it in Hi-Res, and this is better anyway), and it sounded AMAZING. I even compared one of the songs on there to the mp3 version I had. I could tell instantly it was an improvement over the mp3 version. They have a special where any digital Elton John album is 25% off if you enter the promo code ELTONJOHN on the checkout page, so I only paid like $18 for it. The "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" album (amongst other Hi-Res ones there) is like his best album. I got that one too like a year ago (not DSD, Hi-Res), and sounds incredible! So many great songs on that one too (a double album). That site rocks!
Well you're welcome man! I'm glad the info I'm giving is of benefit to you.
Yeah maybe one day. I would maybe go up to $500-$700 max right now, just because I got that Amazon Prime Store Card deal I mentioned earlier. But right now I'm not convinced anything in that price range would DEFINITELY outdo my K553. And that would also look nice too (I'm looking at YOU, the highly-rated but plasticky huge NAD VISO HP50! lol). Maybe the Beyer T70P or the Shure SRH1540 headphones, but not sure on either. I may try out the T70P sometime soon as well as the SRH1540. The T70P doesn't have a detachable cord either (like K553), though it does 45mm speaker drivers, while the Shure does have a detachable cable (can get a 6' one from the 10' one, so not too bad) but only 40mm speaker drivers, so not too sure how vast its soundstage will be, though most reviews say it's spacious like AKG's.
See I already get that feeling though from my K553. On dozens upon dozens of songs I've owned for years, hearing them again (esp the Hi-Res ones) on them is like hearing them for the first time. I also had an experience like that too (songs I didn't use to care for but do now). The live version of the Fleetwood Mac song "Don't Stop", from their Live (1979) album, like the the studio version...... was just an "ok" song from the band. But when I heard that live version (in Hi-Res) on just the original K550, I was like wow the drums (etc) sound so amazing....and I ended up liking it a little more than before. So I know what you mean. I believe that $1500 headphones would sound better, but I too believe in the law of diminishing demands as well. I do like that approach though. Maybe I will start incorporating it into my "listening test sessions" too? lol Although for me it's about finding songs that offer details that only a great pair of neutral-style headphones can properly render. Like you may remember from my "K553 vs. Master & Dynamic MH40" review, the part ("Clarity" section) where I tested both 'phones on "Crystal" stood as a defining moment for me, and was what determined which headphones I would keep.
That song has a history with my experiences in using AKG headphones. I remember the AKG K550 being the third pair of premium headphones I'd bought after being disappointed by the first two (Sennheiser HD 598 ((which I now like more since trying out the 598 SE)), and the Audio-Technica M50x). But before buying them, I remember going to the Magnolia section at my local Best Buy and they had them on display there. I brought my old FiiO E6 (or E11K??) amp with me. (Yes, there was a time I only used an amp. Hey, I was a Jedi in training! lol) Anyway, I hooked up the FiiO amp to my headphones and my smartphone, and played Crystal with the volume fairly up there. The part at about 0:45 where the drums slowly thunder in...... I'll never forget that moment. It was simply magical! And if THAT wasn't clear enough of a sign that AKG was the best, the next line that Lindsay Buckingham sings is "....then I KNEW...." PERFECT! lol Of course now it sounds even better with the HA-2 and the K553, and I leave the EQ setting OFF on my Poweramp app as I feel it adds more clarity (though on the A17, I'd still boost the 2.5kHz EQ band up 2 notches). If you wanna experience what I'm saying, you can buy the album "Fleetwood Mac" here and also the megahit classic "Rumours" here. Both are 10/10 IMO with regards to sound quality. The FM album was recorded at a slightly lower volume than most Hi-Res albums are, but it still sounds incredible, in every way possible! (Use promo code 12PERCENT to get 12% off, on the checkout page)
Hope your trip went well.
Yeah I took the DT1770 off my list. I didn't catch the 250 ohm spec earlier. I have NO interest in a desktop setup. Well I'll keep an eye on the MrSpeakers headphones too.
So wait, balanced headphones won't work on the HA-2? Why do you say that? Doesn't the other end of that balanced cable just have 1 connector anyway? I never thought that would be an issue.
Ya know, I just found out that AKG makes a highly-rated bluetooth version of the K545 or K550 headphone (reviews I've read describe sound signature closer to K550, though they say it's closer to K545 b/c size is smaller than K550 like K545 is, but I don't agree on sound b/c they say K545 is bassy and these aren't...... well, not AS bassy as the K545 appear to be lol).................the AKG K845BT. I really like that they made these because for people I know who don't like wired headphones, these are a PERFECT choice b/c they offer that great neutral AKG sound and bluetooth too, and look JUST like the K550/K553 as well! Yeah, the K553 sounds slightly better than the K550, but I think these will probably still sound MUCH better than most bluetooth headphones in the under $500 range, and even most wired headphones in that range as well, and they only run for about $280 on Amazon. I'm considering trying these out sometime soon. If I do, I'll post a comparison of them vs. K553. One great thing about these is that they actually COME with the option to connect a cable to them for when you don't want to use the battery. They say a SLIGHT bump in volume and sound quality is apparent when using the cable, but only a tiny one. For me tiny is still something lol, but I mean the idea that people can hear pretty much exactly what I hear with K553 but on a pair of wireless headphones is just fantastic to me. I want EVERYONE to hear what I hear, even wireless headphone lovers! lol
Anyway......... why would you be hooking up the A17 to an external DAC? I don't get why people mix them together. If that's what you're gonna do, you might as well just play off your phone like I do. The DAC on the A17 is already great, but if it's "not enough" for you, then you should just get a more expensive DAP. The whole point (to me anyway) of a DAP is that you don't NEED to have an in-between device (i.e. like the HA-2) b/c your source player is already premium quality.
So you're using digital coax cables b/c of the FiiO X3ii? Man, get rid of that thing already. It's 2016 lol. F coax cables. lol Too many great USB to Micro USB options out there to let yourself be confined to coax. The A17 uses a proprietary USB cable, but whatever. It's still USB.
Yeah sounds like you wanna go same route as me (phone/player to HA-2 to headphones), which is cool. Yeah let me know. And remember to get that extension cable too for iPhone if you buy HA-2. That link I gave you gives you different lengths and options. The cables that come with HA-2 are only about 6 inches, which to me is too short. I like 3-4' cables the best. Not too long, not too short.
HA-2 dressed in a tux? I like it. lol It is a DAMN CLASSY piece of electronic machinery. The FiiO E18K comes close, but doesn't look AS cool, and also from what I've read, the HA-2 sounds slightly better too. But they are both are identical feature-wise.
When you say you don't keep Hi-Res files in your library, does that mean you DO buy & downsample them like I do, or that you just don't ever get any Hi-Res music period? I hope it's the former. lol I JUST got Elton John's classic album "Honky Chateau" in DSD (considered 1 step above Hi-Res) from Acoustic Sounds (no one else offers it in Hi-Res, and this is better anyway), and it sounded AMAZING. I even compared one of the songs on there to the mp3 version I had. I could tell instantly it was an improvement over the mp3 version. They have a special where any digital Elton John album is 25% off if you enter the promo code ELTONJOHN on the checkout page, so I only paid like $18 for it. The "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" album (amongst other Hi-Res ones there) is like his best album. I got that one too like a year ago (not DSD, Hi-Res), and sounds incredible! So many great songs on that one too (a double album). That site rocks!
Well you're welcome man! I'm glad the info I'm giving is of benefit to you.
Yeah maybe one day. I would maybe go up to $500-$700 max right now, just because I got that Amazon Prime Store Card deal I mentioned earlier. But right now I'm not convinced anything in that price range would DEFINITELY outdo my K553. And that would also look nice too (I'm looking at YOU, the highly-rated but plasticky huge NAD VISO HP50! lol). Maybe the Beyer T70P or the Shure SRH1540 headphones, but not sure on either. I may try out the T70P sometime soon as well as the SRH1540. The T70P doesn't have a detachable cord either (like K553), though it does 45mm speaker drivers, while the Shure does have a detachable cable (can get a 6' one from the 10' one, so not too bad) but only 40mm speaker drivers, so not too sure how vast its soundstage will be, though most reviews say it's spacious like AKG's.
See I already get that feeling though from my K553. On dozens upon dozens of songs I've owned for years, hearing them again (esp the Hi-Res ones) on them is like hearing them for the first time. I also had an experience like that too (songs I didn't use to care for but do now). The live version of the Fleetwood Mac song "Don't Stop", from their Live (1979) album, like the the studio version...... was just an "ok" song from the band. But when I heard that live version (in Hi-Res) on just the original K550, I was like wow the drums (etc) sound so amazing....and I ended up liking it a little more than before. So I know what you mean. I believe that $1500 headphones would sound better, but I too believe in the law of diminishing demands as well. I do like that approach though. Maybe I will start incorporating it into my "listening test sessions" too? lol Although for me it's about finding songs that offer details that only a great pair of neutral-style headphones can properly render. Like you may remember from my "K553 vs. Master & Dynamic MH40" review, the part ("Clarity" section) where I tested both 'phones on "Crystal" stood as a defining moment for me, and was what determined which headphones I would keep.
That song has a history with my experiences in using AKG headphones. I remember the AKG K550 being the third pair of premium headphones I'd bought after being disappointed by the first two (Sennheiser HD 598 ((which I now like more since trying out the 598 SE)), and the Audio-Technica M50x). But before buying them, I remember going to the Magnolia section at my local Best Buy and they had them on display there. I brought my old FiiO E6 (or E11K??) amp with me. (Yes, there was a time I only used an amp. Hey, I was a Jedi in training! lol) Anyway, I hooked up the FiiO amp to my headphones and my smartphone, and played Crystal with the volume fairly up there. The part at about 0:45 where the drums slowly thunder in...... I'll never forget that moment. It was simply magical! And if THAT wasn't clear enough of a sign that AKG was the best, the next line that Lindsay Buckingham sings is "....then I KNEW...." PERFECT! lol Of course now it sounds even better with the HA-2 and the K553, and I leave the EQ setting OFF on my Poweramp app as I feel it adds more clarity (though on the A17, I'd still boost the 2.5kHz EQ band up 2 notches). If you wanna experience what I'm saying, you can buy the album "Fleetwood Mac" here and also the megahit classic "Rumours" here. Both are 10/10 IMO with regards to sound quality. The FM album was recorded at a slightly lower volume than most Hi-Res albums are, but it still sounds incredible, in every way possible! (Use promo code 12PERCENT to get 12% off, on the checkout page)