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Sep 1, 2020 at 2:14 AM Post #44,026 of 45,723
So we progressed from Dual DAC architecture to Dual DAP architecture!

:wink:.......................................well the only sure improvement is greater library access. Still as a possible exercise in futility............it's allowing the 1A to not do file transportation. The thing is it used to not work. I'm actually not sure I tried it with Sony 3.02? But I tried it when the DAC firmware was released and posted my set-up and failure here in this thread.

It will only work if you have the 1A already in DAC mode. Meaning you can unplug the cable but the 1A will not recognize the signal unless you unplug then turn on the DAC mode and replug in the cable from the 1Z.

Also for what it's worth I could not get the 1A to be a transport to the 1Z.

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Sep 1, 2020 at 2:19 AM Post #44,027 of 45,723
Yes, but in the case of the adapter, it's not a simple WM-Port to USB adapter. The adapter actually has circuitry, and acts like a middle-man.

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But @Damz87 tried it with the S1 and could not get it to work. Most likely due to not having the right power requirement.
 
Sep 1, 2020 at 3:18 AM Post #44,028 of 45,723
Maybe it’s because the internal DAC is so damn good and Sony disabled the use of all other external DACs. LOL.

Yes, there is no real reason to try to run the Walkmans as file transports to the Alpen 2 E-17K.............though there is a select cause to fully find out what the best sound potential is? That would be if you believe the Walkmans have a “less noise” USB signal (which I believe). There is also a set of FiiO drivers for Windows which allow even select DSD files to be played on it. I actually believe I can hear improvement using 24bit files with it. I purchased the E-17 as a DAC for my IPod except it’s actually difficult to find mini-USB to Lighting cables, so I gave up. Penon has them but I’m not spending $30 to get the E-17K to work in one application.

Though I have to say the Alpen 2 E-17K is way better than the on-board DACs on laptops.

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Sep 1, 2020 at 4:00 AM Post #44,029 of 45,723
Following the baseline vs progressive discussion, I realized that the website for checking if a JPEG is baseline or progressive also provides the ability to convert a JPEG to baseline.

This could be useful especially for MacOS users for example, that do not want to install GIMP just for this.

https://www.imgonline.com.ua/eng/convert.php

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Sep 1, 2020 at 4:04 AM Post #44,030 of 45,723
I am still very impressed by the sound quality issued from the WM1A with MrWalkman cooked Firmware 3.02
I found the best sound for my taste when I use it :
-> as WM1Z (As I didn't get any noticeable improvement by switching between WM1A <->WM1Z mode)
-> with DSEE-AI and Type B LOW activated
-> setting low gain for balanced output
-> and (optionally) an Oriolus BA300s for an extra power to compensate a bit the low gain setting for DSD with -3DB setting (the Xduoo XD05Plus amp is much bigger/heavier and doesn't improve anything unless I use a Heddphone which is really power hungry with 87Db sensitivity at 42 Ohms).

I use for my comparison an Ultrasone Ed15 veritas which is a kind of TOTL closed headphone for travel (but need some EQ to correct some bumb in low frequency and a hole around 4 Khz)
I Compare this setting to a Fiio M11, a SMSL M500 + Monolyth THX887, and the WM1A, even with a limited 10 bands graphic equalizer, gives some impressive rich sound (all DACs are settle with same the GEQ via Neutron)..

I doubt that a Lotoo S1 with 120mw could give such type results even if we could connect it to a WM1A through the WMport. I have a Cobalt USB Dac which is really far to reach the WM1A result when connected to my Iphone Xsmax or Notebook (both equalized with Neutron IOS or Windows).

I am waiting for a Centrance M8 V2 with hoping an improvement when connected to the Fiio M11 (because I need the 2 SD cards readers which are lacking with Sony) and reach the WM1A sound results.
Since the MrWalkman cooked firmware is out, I doubt that a portable system can reach these ultra-low frequencies compatible such clear impacts while keeping a good stage with nice hassles upper frequencies).
Actually, I have even no real mind to give a try to an ibasso DX220Max or the Hiby R8 as I feel it's a 2000€ ticket with no guarantee It will improve or even reach the WM1A + MrWalkman cooked firmware + Oriolus BA300s amp results.
 
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Sep 1, 2020 at 4:51 AM Post #44,031 of 45,723
If you listen to Nobuo Uematsu's Final Fantasy music, you will no doubt be amazed by what this new Sony sound processing can do. Recommended track to experience the effect:
The Sight of Spira - Final Fantasy X Original Sound Track
FF fans here and love "Beethoven of Gaming music" music composition.

I would recommend high definition music from bandcamp ... Distant World's FF collection and compilation albums

https://store.ffdistantworlds.com/album/distant-worlds-ii-more-music-from-final-fantasy
 
Sep 1, 2020 at 5:05 AM Post #44,032 of 45,723
Listen to HE4XX from head-amp A90,1Z to D90 via USB DAC mode.
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Sometimes I find my lovely 1A with stocked 3.02 J region sound perfectly to suit my mood. "Love is a Wild Thing" . Have a pleasant listening day !

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Sep 1, 2020 at 5:15 AM Post #44,033 of 45,723
That was my post :) I was using the WMC-NWH10 and it wasn’t working. Still can’t get it to work unfortunately
Could be Sony WMC-NWH10 cable is not USB OTG, try to extend USB OTG adaptor i.e. USB A male to USB C then to S1, hope it will work .

I have S1, 1Z, and WMC-NWH10 cable lol

edit: Joke aside, 1Z and 1A sound way above S1.

I only use S1 on my cellphone S10plus, initially I have problem, further exploring, i need to enable USB audio output under "Developer Option" to make S10 plus output signal to S1.
 
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Sep 1, 2020 at 6:18 AM Post #44,034 of 45,723
Hi everyone, new WM1A owner here. Been using it for a few weeks and enjoying the sound with my Andromeda.

A quick question though. My 1A produces a "crackling" sound heard through my earphones WHILE I'm plugging the earphones into the 3.5mm jack. After plugging it in fully it is silent except for the background hiss. Is the "crackling" sound supposed to happen? Just want to be sure that there is nothing wrong with my 1A.

Appreciate any replies!
 
Sep 1, 2020 at 6:34 AM Post #44,035 of 45,723
Hi everyone, new WM1A owner here. Been using it for a few weeks and enjoying the sound with my Andromeda.

A quick question though. My 1A produces a "crackling" sound heard through my earphones WHILE I'm plugging the earphones into the 3.5mm jack. After plugging it in fully it is silent except for the background hiss. Is the "crackling" sound supposed to happen? Just want to be sure that there is nothing wrong with my 1A.

Appreciate any replies!

I think a little noise while plugging in is normal, but I’ll let others chime in!
 
Sep 1, 2020 at 7:09 AM Post #44,036 of 45,723
Hi everyone, new WM1A owner here. Been using it for a few weeks and enjoying the sound with my Andromeda.

A quick question though. My 1A produces a "crackling" sound heard through my earphones WHILE I'm plugging the earphones into the 3.5mm jack. After plugging it in fully it is silent except for the background hiss. Is the "crackling" sound supposed to happen? Just want to be sure that there is nothing wrong with my 1A.

Appreciate any replies!

Yes it's normal.
 
Sep 1, 2020 at 8:23 AM Post #44,037 of 45,723
@Vitaly2017 why you don't just order the sony kimber (assuming.it is the IEM MMCX version and not the 2x3.5mm version for MDR-Z1R) from accessory Jack? Yheyre so reliable. I've been buying from them since 2015 never had a single issue only than my card refusing to pass (fortunately paypal exists). He used to have the DMP-Z1 for just USD $7900 (6600€ approx)
 
Sep 1, 2020 at 9:09 AM Post #44,038 of 45,723
And my 1Z is in the post to @Nayparm for the full mod treatment
 
Sep 1, 2020 at 9:49 AM Post #44,040 of 45,723
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