[fish1050]

I think we should have only one thread about Sony NW-WM1Z Walkman.
Having two is confusing and hard to follow for many members.
Admin can you do anything about it?
Thank you.

For now maybe users could state at the top of each post the model they are referring to until  the forum gets split for each unit separately

 

[cthomas]

I think we should have only one thread about Sony NW-WM1Z Walkman.
Having two is confusing and hard to follow for many members.
Admin can you do anything about it?
Thank you.

How is it confusing? They both have same OS, same output power, both function in the same exact way. Just different storage, colour and a few internal bits and materials differ that probably won't make any difference.

 

[denis1976]

Both because my unit comes up with the warning every 20 hours and turns the volume down by itself and because I have tried a EU and a Japan unit side by side

ok , that only proves that you can play for 20 hours without the volume cap, after that warning you can play loud again

 

[fish1050]

How is it confusing? They both have same OS, same output power, both function in the same exact way. Just different storage, colour and a few internal bits and materials differ that probably won't make any difference.

Right now it probably isn't but once people have them and start posting their reviews it would be nice to know which unit the are referring to.

 

[nc8000]

ok , that only proves that you can play for 20 hours without the volume cap, after that warning you can play loud again

The EU unit never goes as loud as the Japan unit. There are 2 caps, one at nominally 85 dB and another at 100 dB (whatever those numbers mean when no headphone is there for reference). On EU unit you can never go over the 100 mark and you get bumped back to 85 with a warning every 20 hours. The Japan unit can go beyond the 100 mark. Disabling the sound enhancement app gives more volume at the start of the range so easier to avoid the warning as it relates to how far up the volume control goes.

 

[proedros]

ok , that only proves that you can play for 20 hours without the volume cap, after that warning you can play loud again

 
you are speculating, while at the same time people who owned both tell you how things are

EU model simply lowers volume from say 80% to 50% every 20 hours , but the total volume output is 30-40% lower than the JPN model
 
to get an idea again of what we are saying , i used to listen to my EU model on 60-80% of total volume power , when with the jpn model i listen to 30-50%
 
so once more , EU is 30-40% less powerful loud-wise that the JPN model
 
cheers

 

[ahossam]

Too bad there is no wifi...no matter how good its sound its mean nothing to me because my music collection is on streaming services, i guess i will stick to mojo + smartphone.

 

[mw7485]

I love the shape.  The gold ain't my style, but I'd get past that fast once I put it in a primo leather case...

There is a titanium grey version that has hardly any bling. One was sold on eBay yesterday. Looks a lot better without the bling IMHO - more like it means business.

 

[ButtUglyJeff]

There is a titanium grey version that has hardly any bling. One was sold on eBay yesterday. Looks a lot better without the bling IMHO - more like it means business.

 
Oh I know, and its also 1/3 the price.  Its the only one I could swing anyways...

 

[Gosod]

what they say about the price?

 

[gerelmx1986]

No new release of the infamous WMC-NWH10? I haven't checked

 

[ButtUglyJeff]

  No new release of the infamous WMC-NWH10? I haven't checked

 
Is it needed?
 
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-WMC-NWH10-Conversion-Cable-Output/dp/B00FF086HE

 

[gerelmx1986]

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Is it needed?
 
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-WMC-NWH10-Conversion-Cable-Output/dp/B00FF086HE

I tought sony had updated that cable with a smaller dongle or with no extra power consumption

 

[bvng3540]

This one can connect to mojo and hugo

 

[emrelights1973]

Did somebody missed the idea ? Both 1A and 1Z were made to drive Z1R full side headphones with ease. But to honestly expect portable DAP a small device to have the power of a whole Desktop system is far from realistic. Let's be realistic here, and thank you

Mojo!