KevP
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Thanks for the clarification. I think my point is, does the ZM2 have more of whatever affects the performance? I really don't know. Just wondering.
SONY NW-WM1Z M2 / WM1A M2
I don't own an WM1ZM2 (yet) but i asked the japanese friends i have who do own one and they haven't experienced issues yet. Neither crashed, nor laggyness.
The WiFi perception is bad with them too, but my M11 Plus i have temporary also have very bad wifi perception. I think that is just the price when everything is shielded heavily everywhere to not affect sound quality.
In the end DAPs are bad streaming devices imho. They need to be build like a smartphone and run smartphone OS to archive that but for the best sound, you want an device that is build like an miniature desktop amp.
By the way i am setting up an ZX300 for a friend right now (imported from japan) and i took some time to compare it to the M11 Plus (never did that. Only with the ZX500 and WM1Z) and holy moly, the ZX300 is better than the M11 Plus for sure.
The track where i noticed this the most is "Imperfect Lock" from the interstellar Soundtrack. In the last third of the Song, there are sounds coming in pulses towards you. They get closer every time, suddenly disappear and begin again in the distance.
With the ZX300 and the MDR-Z1R this is an experience. You really feel how every pulse gets closer to you and how this is affecting your brain. This is an scary experience, especially on louder volumes (i tested on 110/120 on the ZX300 (low gain of course) and oh my god is this amazing.
I tested the same with the M11 Plus but the sounds only get louder with every pulse. They are not getting closer to you or anything. They keep/have the same distance all the time and just increase in volume.
This is just one of many examples and i don't have too much time as he really wants his ZX300, but this shows me that even an old/used ZX300 is still outperforming an brand new M11 Plus ESS.
The WiFi perception is bad with them too, but my M11 Plus i have temporary also have very bad wifi perception. I think that is just the price when everything is shielded heavily everywhere to not affect sound quality.
In the end DAPs are bad streaming devices imho. They need to be build like a smartphone and run smartphone OS to archive that but for the best sound, you want an device that is build like an miniature desktop amp.
By the way i am setting up an ZX300 for a friend right now (imported from japan) and i took some time to compare it to the M11 Plus (never did that. Only with the ZX500 and WM1Z) and holy moly, the ZX300 is better than the M11 Plus for sure.
The track where i noticed this the most is "Imperfect Lock" from the interstellar Soundtrack. In the last third of the Song, there are sounds coming in pulses towards you. They get closer every time, suddenly disappear and begin again in the distance.
With the ZX300 and the MDR-Z1R this is an experience. You really feel how every pulse gets closer to you and how this is affecting your brain. This is an scary experience, especially on louder volumes (i tested on 110/120 on the ZX300 (low gain of course) and oh my god is this amazing.
I tested the same with the M11 Plus but the sounds only get louder with every pulse. They are not getting closer to you or anything. They keep/have the same distance all the time and just increase in volume.
This is just one of many examples and i don't have too much time as he really wants his ZX300, but this shows me that even an old/used ZX300 is still outperforming an brand new M11 Plus ESS.
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The processor of these walkmans appears to be the NXP i.MX8 Plus, ARM Cortex-A53
the follow diagram of that processor seems to imply 868KB of RAM and 512KB of Cache.
My ZX1 has 1GB of SDRAM for operation and apps. These walkmans much be a quite a few more GB than that.
No experience of this processor. The processor on my Sony OLED 55A1 Tv I bought in 2017 was woefully sluggish with android and crashed lots, but 5 years on, even with updated Android versions it is miles better. Sometimes I think implementation efficiency plays a part. My 48A9 TV is on another level though, super smooth operation no doubt due to better processor and implementation.
the follow diagram of that processor seems to imply 868KB of RAM and 512KB of Cache.
My ZX1 has 1GB of SDRAM for operation and apps. These walkmans much be a quite a few more GB than that.
No experience of this processor. The processor on my Sony OLED 55A1 Tv I bought in 2017 was woefully sluggish with android and crashed lots, but 5 years on, even with updated Android versions it is miles better. Sometimes I think implementation efficiency plays a part. My 48A9 TV is on another level though, super smooth operation no doubt due to better processor and implementation.
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From this post https://www.head-fi.org/threads/new-sony-nw-wm1z-m2-wm1a-m2.962054/page-261#post-16953301 from @Sonywalkmanuser it looks like there are 4 GB of RAM on the WM1AM2 and pretty sure that it's the same amount of RAM on the WM1ZM2
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your definition on ROM is correct.
but don’t know from when (perhaps during the age of PDA), ppl starting to use the term ROM to refer to internal memory which does not lose content when the device is turned off for handheld devices
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Agree, even entry level Chromebooks that are being sold nowadays have 4 GB.
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anyone have video to show the UI of WM1AM2 to see if it sluggish or not ? .eg when load youtube, apple music etc
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thanks
Spotify, Amazon music and YouTube are shown at 7:20, but only short
Here is his second review, one month after
At 6:37 he is talking about not having any issues with the software.
Everything is working as expected and as you can see in the video, everything runs fluid.
His Walkman is, of course, in Stock form, so not debloated
But Amazon Music tends to be stressed easily as he says. Is you scroll there too fast, it sometimes starts to lag.
But using it normally, he never had issues and enjoyed using it with a lot of apps
At 6:37 he is talking about not having any issues with the software.
Everything is working as expected and as you can see in the video, everything runs fluid.
His Walkman is, of course, in Stock form, so not debloated
But Amazon Music tends to be stressed easily as he says. Is you scroll there too fast, it sometimes starts to lag.
But using it normally, he never had issues and enjoyed using it with a lot of apps
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There was a review on Youtube from a Hong Kong creator who compared the bluetooth connection of both the 1AM2 and 1ZM2, and concluded that the 1ZM2 was worse with wireless due to the copper chassis. I wonder if it's the same with Wifi.
That ZX1 looks like one of prototypes they created to test different housings before the ZX2. From memory it was machined out of brass.Glad some positive feedback after that worrying post.
Here's a nice pic from Sato's twitter. https://twitter.com/Hiroaki59612632/status/1535418139801858048?t=IMdZ01b1BrjRmU3RCPnybw&s=19 Noticed an NW-ZX1 next to the NW-WM1ZM2
Very cool if attendees get a chance to listen to it.
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