sony mz-rh1- shall i write a review poll

[Sparky191]

The one of the major advantages of using a lossless files is that that you can rip whatever you like from it. Like iTunes can from an Appless lossless file on synching with an iPod. That you have to convert back to a WAV for a new bitrate with ATRAC lossless files means it broken.

Whats the point of having a lossless library if you can't choose your bitrate as required (a disk for a flight/holidays vs a disk for your commute). Also you might want to use a new bitrate that becomes available in the future just like 352kps.

 

[DigDub]

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Originally Posted by CheeseheadBob That is a total Lie. MP3 Players have gotten better over the years, and, there is virtually no difference between MD ALTRAC crap and MP3 files, as of now. In any case, I believe I'm talking about PCM vs MD. I could go into 100 different reasons why I would not choose MD vs MP3 or PCM for that matter. Suffice it to say, No Md player can come even close to $50 Cd player playing a CD [PCM] unless it's very, very high end, newest MD player. But then, what is the point of buying a $400 MD player when you can have a $50 CD player that can do just as good a job. Fact of the matter is, If I start going into all the details of all the sick tricks Sony pulled over the years and continue to pull, You're only supporting their Evil behavior. The latest fiasco involving their CD copy right scam has only turned more people off. http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...117_444162.htm It's not just their crappy products, it's their dishonest behavior. That's what you're supporting when you mindlessly support their dishonest products.

why you are mixing up audio quality with copyright scam is beyond me.

fwiw, when md was released, in its atrac 4 version, many 'audiophiles' claimed they could not hear a difference between it and CD.

now you keep saying a $50 cd player will sound better than any md unit, so i suppose you have a lot of experience with $50 cd players, md units and mp3 players, eh? why don't you tell us what you have used, and why you think your experience with all that you have used is enough to justify that any md unit will sound worse than everything else. i will start off with mine:

MD:
sony - mzr55, mzr90, mzr n10, mzr910
aiwa - f5, f60, f70
panasonic - mr200, mr220
sharp - dr7 (king of SQ of any portable music players, i'm confident)

mp3:
iriver - ihp100
creative - muvo2 5gb, zen usb 2.0, neeon
apple - 5g ipod
iaudio - m3

so, lets see what you are basing your comments that any md unit will sound crap, eh?

 

[mixxxer]

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Originally Posted by CheeseheadBob And, if you're gonna tell me how great that new SonicStage crap is, please, don't even get me started. It has already screwed up alot of my MP3 files which I may never be able to use properly again.

Sounds like you don't actually own 'original' music cd's, or you could just re-rip them if they were 'screwed up'. Sony is probably laughing at you.

 

[Tungsten]

Back before all this USB Connectivity, before the software that had to be installed, before the Net MD fad, back before all that... there used to be plain vanilla flavor Mini Disc machines with Optical Inputs.

You recorded in real time from any Digital source, whether your PC (with a USB plug in Xitel Optical link accessory or via your sound card with Optical out), your discman PCDP, your CD deck etc,. or analog inputs from any source, vinyl, cassette, radio, microphone you name it. (sure the new MD can still do the analog. For now

) In fact, the old first generation MiniDisc recorders had Optical Output as well as inputs! Whoa. What a concept - but corporate shills couldn't have people making digital - digital copies from MD unit to MD unit could they?! "Freedom" but not too much freedom little consumer!

Now MiniDisc just seems crippled with weird software and all these sick rules about what you can and can't copy, move, store, listen to etc.,

 

[astranovus]

tungsten, sonic stage 3.4 allows you to upload any recording made with your rh1 to your pc, regardless if analogue or digital

 

[nismo96]

Also, the higher end minidisc recorders still have optical input for realtime dubs. I used the one on my NH1 just the other say.

 

[astranovus]

you don't need optical outs on new mds,
you just upload the music to your pc,

you also don't need a microDAC etc as the internal dac is very good, that's why i got my rh1- the line-out is perfect

 

[Tungsten]

bah a cheap $50 CD player still beats em' all

okay okay, MD still has digital input on the top models, and people should make use of that more often instead of complaining about the software transfer method

 

[astranovus]

realtime is a pain

 

[nismo96]

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Originally Posted by Tungsten bah a cheap $50 CD player still beats em' all okay okay, MD still has digital input on the top models, and people should make use of that more often instead of complaining about the software transfer method

The software isn't so bad, and you can put lossless music on a HiMD easily if you want to do so.

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Originally Posted by astranovus realtime is a pain

I hate this comment. You bought the CD to listen to in the first place. Why not listen to it once while you're dubbing it to the MD?

 

[DigDub]

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Originally Posted by astranovus realtime is a pain

the quality is worth it.

 

[astranovus]

i can transfer a whole cd in pcm on to a minidisc, it takes about 30 mins, that's way too long,

256 is sufficient quality,

realtime is useless, as i erase my discs a lot, don't see the point in hoarding them if i've got them on my hdd.

so you got to effectively realtime over and over again or transfer the whole thing over,

here mp3 players shine though, on a 30gb ipod ,a full pcm 700 mb cd would only take 2 mins to transfer at full usb 2.0,

i don't need lossless, just use it for backup purposes

256 is my listening quality

 

[nismo96]

No one said lossless was quick, but doing it over the PC via Simpleburner or Sonicstage isn't that bad. I rarely use real-time myself any longer, but it comes in handy for times when I am not home but want to dub something, or for those pesky CDs that have DRM and don't like to be ripped.

I tend to use Lossless rarely though, I use 352-192 depending on the quality of my source material.

 

[DigDub]

i rarely do realtime now too. in fact, i use my cellphone for my portable listening. but when i am in the mood for some serious listening, i take out my sharp dr7, listen to some realtime recorded md, and wonder why people don't make sound this good anymore.

 

[astranovus]

whats differene between reatime old md short play and 256 atrac3plus,

they are theoretically near enough the same, and you shouldn't be able to tell the difference,

the only reason i use 256 is that you can get 8hrs on to a 1gig hi-md disc with 352 it would be a lot less, plus i cant tell the difference