Sonab H10

Apr 1, 2011 at 8:44 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 13

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Has anyone heard of the Sonab H10? Did a bit of googling but couldn't find out much about it (except that it was designed by the Eames for Sonab). Nothing much about Sonab or Stig Carlsson here on HF so searching for the H10 here didn't yield anything.
 
Hoping someone here would have some info about them. Cheers.
 
Apr 1, 2011 at 11:24 PM Post #3 of 13
Indeed. Not too fond on the colour scheme though. 
 
Wonder if anyone here has a pair. Hopefully someone can comment on its sound signature and probably its specs. Images from ebay:
 

 

 
Apr 2, 2011 at 11:13 AM Post #5 of 13
Haha. Does seem that way. Child of the beats and tma. Except that it's older than both??!!! 
 
Wanted a pair pretty bad just because it was designed by the Eames. The fact that it was a Sonab was a plus given that Sonab was a well known hifi player back then. Hopefully, another pair appears somewhere. 
 
Apr 3, 2011 at 10:05 AM Post #6 of 13
Charles and Ray Eames had nothing to do with the Sonab headphones, this connection was only made as a sales trick in a recent ad (“Eames era”).
 
The modernist Sonab designs were masterminded by Lars Lallerstedt from 1969 to 1974, in all probability also including the H10 and H20 headphones. These high quality headphones were only in production a few years, from 1972 to 1974, according to the Sonab catalogues I’ve seen. The headphones were manufactured by German MB (Mikrophon Bau), which may explain the short lifespan of the headphones as MB ran into financial difficulties in 1974-1975 after the world-wide introduction of electret microphones (see Wikiphonia).
 

 
I’m listening to the H10 as I write this, and would describe the sound as punchy and forward, typically 70s, with deep bass roll-off. Still, the frequency balance is OK, with some midrange unevenness. The pads are aged, the foam all but gone, which means that isolation and distance to driver is not optimal. The drivers are also acoustically filtered by the plastic baffle which leaves only three small openings for the driver. I’m sure there is room for improvement here, both concerning damping and shape/size of the driver opening.
 

 
The headphones were originally supplied with tone filters (“klangfilter”), foam donuts that you put into the pads for a softer sound.
 

 

 
The bigger brother H20 had a higher sensitivity and wider frequency response according to specifications. They’re 400 ohms and need good amplification.
 
A design very typical of the 1970s, stylistically, which may or may not appeal. I, for one, would not wear them in public, but if you do you'd certainly attract attention.
 
Apr 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM Post #7 of 13
Ah, I have indeed fell for the trick. Nevertheless, they are nicely designed. 
 
MDR30, thanks for all the info. It does satisfy my curiosity a fair bit. Would love to get my hands on pair though. Too bad i lost that bid on ebay (overslept 
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Question though, have you tried modding them? The plastic baffle looks temptingly easy to remove (3 screws). I had the impression that given that it's a Sonab, it would have been different from cans in its time (like their speakers). Then again, I have little knowledge on Sonab (can only read so much on google).
 
Also, is that a black H10 or the H20 in the last pic? Cheers. 
 
 
 
 
 
Apr 5, 2011 at 5:55 PM Post #8 of 13
Well, the closest thing to an omni-directional headphone (compared to a speaker) would probably be an open dipole, like the K1000. In that sense the H10 and H20 are quite conventional closed headphones.
 

 
The cup is pretty closed (not airtight) without any damping and the MB drivers themselves are also pretty closed, with a thick piece of felt screwed on the backside of the driver. This makes it the equivalent of the pressure sensitive microphone diaphragm, which is omni-directional.
 

 
The driver is glued to the baffle and quite small: capsule diameter is 24,5 mm, diaphragm 20 mm (not wider than the openings on the plastic baffle) and coil 14,5 mm. Most likely the typical MB dynamic microphone capsule.
 

 
I don't think it's worth the time and effort to modify them, unless I have nothing better to do on a rainy day.
 
And yes - that's the H20 on the last pic in my previous post.
 
Apr 5, 2011 at 6:51 PM Post #9 of 13
Thanks for the info on such beautiful cans, i'm creating a small database (personal) of vintage hp's. 
 
Apr 6, 2011 at 11:36 AM Post #10 of 13
Thanks MDR30 a lot for all the info. Makes me want one even more (prolly post a thread to see if anyone here besides you have a pair they're willing to give up).
 
That's true. The K1000 to an extent is omni-directional (even though headphones in general are not omni-directional). Just a question on aesthetics, is the H10's headband made of metal too (googled the H20 for a better angle - it seems like it's similarly designed with brushed metal headbands)?
 
 
 
 
Jun 1, 2011 at 8:52 PM Post #12 of 13
Hi, just a heads up im selling the actual pair that VaspN posted up - I "won" them on ebay but when i got them i relasied theyre werent suited for monitoring, despite loking hella cool! PM if your interested.
 
 
 

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