Shure SCL5? Good, or bad?

[laxlife1234]

Hi all, sorry for posting so many threads, but I couldn't find a thread on it comparing it. I am looking for the Westone 3's, Monster turbine pro copper, and Shure Scl5's. Those 3 I hope are pretty much narrowed down.
 
I want to know if there is something that has the biggest flow out of the 3 headphones. I know all of them are good, but I do want to get the best for my money. I am more of a bass head so that is why all 3 are up here. I am trying to start noticing the distinct difference b/w the highs, and mids.
 
Any advice would be helpful so please help me! Also, if you have a pair of either one of these that has ~30 hours and still has at least a year and a half warranty left and less than $250, please pm me. I will either trade or buy them from you.

 

[Pianist]

I think the Turbines or JVC FX700 will suit you best.

 

[Dobber65]

I have the SCL5 and Monster Turbine Pro (both Gold and Copper).  I prefer the SCL5 over its cousin, the UM2, and its successor, the SE420.  I believe it is livelier than either of these, and very very well-built.  The bass is clearer and seems to go lower than these, and the treble is a bit more extended (or boosted).
 
However, its design is 5+ years old, and there has been a lot of innovation in this period, let alone just the past two years.  For my money, I prefer the new dynamic designs from Monster and Sennheiser, but still appreciate the SCL5 and if I had to choose a good BA IEM, the Triple.fi Pro from UE/Logitech.
 
If extreme tank-like build quality is not critical, then go with the Turbine Pro (many threads here covering the subtle differences between the Golds and Coppers).  I also recommend the Sennheiser IE8 as an option if you need a replaceable cable (a good value proposition given that cables tend to be the weak link in IEMs), and the bass on the IE8 is very unique, a little broader and slightly less controlled than the Turbine Pros.

 

[laxlife1234]

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I think the Turbines or JVC FX700 will suit you best.

Whoa, just looked up the JVC's, those I have never seen. But what is so good about them? Thanks for the reply!

 
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I have the SCL5 and Monster Turbine Pro (both Gold and Copper).  I prefer the SCL5 over its cousin, the UM2, and its successor, the SE420.  I believe it is livelier than either of these, and very very well-built.  The bass is clearer and seems to go lower than these, and the treble is a bit more extended (or boosted).
 
However, its design is 5+ years old, and there has been a lot of innovation in this period, let alone just the past two years.  For my money, I prefer the new dynamic designs from Monster and Sennheiser, but still appreciate the SCL5 and if I had to choose a good BA IEM, the Triple.fi Pro from UE/Logitech.
 
If extreme tank-like build quality is not critical, then go with the Turbine Pro (many threads here covering the subtle differences between the Golds and Coppers).  I also recommend the Sennheiser IE8 as an option if you need a replaceable cable (a good value proposition given that cables tend to be the weak link in IEMs), and the bass on the IE8 is very unique, a little broader and slightly less controlled than the Turbine Pros.

 
Oh, I didnt realize the scl5 was 5 years old.. Ok, now that I know that I dont think Ill be getting it. I think I might be getting one of the turbines, but I dont really want the ie8's. Thanks for the reply!
 

 

[chinesekiwi]

In audio, particularly with sources, old doesn't mean it's bad tbh. Far from it. I'm actually seeking old Minidisc players tbh to be purely used as a DAC.
Anyway, the JVC FX series is known to have fantastic lower bass (not the mid-hump emphasis crap you usually get).

 

[Dobber65]

I absolutely agree that in audio, old does not mean bad.  I still want to get some original B&W 801s and  mid-80's vintage Krell amps, let alone Linn's turntables are still in demand.
 
My only point, through personal observation, is that the advances in IEMs have been dramatic over the past 5 years, and for the most part steps forward.  Multi-way universals (both BA and dynamic), new driver technology (think Ortofon and Grado), much-improved dynamic IEMs, etc. has brought a lot of new ideas to the market, some better than others.  Ety still has a reference in the ~20-year-old ER-4x, Shure continues to offer its original line for stage monitoring, and UE still has its (or Jerry Harvey's) original customs still in its catalog.
 
I think it's interesting to note that some of the older designs from Shure and UE (and even Westone) still continue to be seen as competitive after 4-5 years.  Newer IEMs also are competitive and offer different benefits, giving everyone choice, and much more choice than what we had available in 2005-2006.  Back then it seems we had only Ety, Shure, Westone, and UE, and now we have a much broader set of equally high-quality choices.

 

[laxlife1234]

Yeah, I guess old is alright. I didn't literally mean what I said, I meant it to be more like I would want newer since I am planning on keeping the phones for a good 4-5 years hopefully if they last. I would probably get new ones some time in between there, and if I do plan on keeping them for 4-5 years then if I got the shure scl5's then they would be around 10 years old, and by that long I am assuming companies would probably come up with some nice new technology (hopefully) that would make the Scl5 look bad, although I'm sure they are good. I just like to.. think ahead. So for me it is between the monsters and westones now. I think I am going to leave the deciding for myself though. Thanks for the help though guys!
 
I am still up for opinions though, or advice on which one is better in which category, etc..