[BubisUK]

Maybe someone has Btr3k and Shanling UP4? Which one is sounding better or is more user friendly etc.? Thankin you

 

[BenF]

Maybe someone has Btr3k and Shanling UP4? Which one is sounding better or is more user friendly etc.? Thankin you

I have both - what is your preferred sound signature?

 

[BubisUK]

I have both - what is your preferred sound signature?

Close to neutral most of the time depends on my mood. I have a Btr5 and want to get another toy to have on the go

 

[Mellowship]

Close to neutral most of the time depends on my mood. I have a Btr5 and want to get another toy to have on the go

For me, the wheel on the Shanling makes all the difference. It is really user friendly.

 

[yancore]

UP4 doesn't have a balanced 3.5mm port, so no.

Thank you very much for the answer, Bro ... I almost did buy the adapter cable ...

 

[Shanling]

Thank you very much for the answer, Bro ... I almost did buy the adapter cable ...

3.5mm balanced cable would truly be pointless with UP4.

May I ask why you were going to buy it, if you are already using headphones with 2.5mm jack?

 

[BenF]

Close to neutral most of the time depends on my mood. I have a Btr5 and want to get another toy to have on the go

UP4 is more veiled than UP2, sounds too close to BTR5.
BTR3K is my favorite from all the UP2/UP4/BTR3/BTR3K/BTR5 group - it doesn't have the veil of UP4/BTR5, and it adds some slight tube-like euphony to the sound.
BTR3 sounded very neutral, but it had thin notes - BTR3K resolved this by adding the proper weight.
If you want true neutrality, ES100 is probably the best choice - but its buttons suck, it has micro-USB, and I had two of them die on me...

 

[BubisUK]

UP4 is more veiled than UP2, sounds too close to BTR5.
BTR3K is my favorite from all the UP2/UP4/BTR3/BTR3K/BTR5 group - it doesn't have the veil of UP4/BTR5, and it adds some slight tube-like euphony to the sound.
BTR3 sounded very neutral, but it had thin notes - BTR3K resolved this by adding the proper weight.
If you want true neutrality, ES100 is probably the best choice - but its buttons suck, it has micro-USB, and I had two of them die on me...

Btr3k it is then Thank you sir for your help

 

[yancore]

3.5mm balanced cable would truly be pointless with UP4.

May I ask why you were going to buy it, if you are already using headphones with 2.5mm jack?

Nothing more just as a comparison for sound ... The difference between high gain mode and dual dac boost mode, where the 2.5mm balance jack is only in high gain mode, while the dual dac boost mode isn't only connected to the 3.5mm jack, when comparing These 2 modes, honestly, there is almost no difference (Since I was just planning to buy & compare the 3.5mm stereo jack to the 2.5mm trrs balance, if it is played in the 3.5mm se jack hole, is there a significant difference, right or not ??? ) ... Maybe my question seems stupid & I'm just starting out in the audio world, but just my curiosity is high with the simplest method possible from the smallest things & Fundamental ...

 

[Shanling]

Nothing more just as a comparison for sound ... The difference between high gain mode and dual dac boost mode, where the 2.5mm balance jack is only in high gain mode, while the dual dac boost mode isn't only connected to the 3.5mm jack, when comparing These 2 modes, honestly, there is almost no difference (Since I was just planning to buy & compare the 3.5mm stereo jack to the 2.5mm trrs balance, if it is played in the 3.5mm se jack hole, is there a significant difference, right or not ??? ) ... Maybe my question seems stupid & I'm just starting out in the audio world, but just my curiosity is high with the simplest method possible from the smallest things & Fundamental ...

Dual DAC mode is available only on 3.5mm, because in balanced both DACs are enabled at all times, no matter low or high gain.

Of course you can try to use 3.5mm SE to 2.5mm balanced and compare the outputs. From our point of view the balanced output has objectively better power and measurements.

 

[yancore]

Dual DAC mode is available only on 3.5mm, because in balanced both DACs are enabled at all times, no matter low or high gain.

Of course you can try to use 3.5mm SE to 2.5mm balanced and compare the outputs. From our point of view the balanced output has objectively better power and measurements.

Thank you very much @Shanling for the response, which makes me satisfied with the answer ...

A little input, when bluetooth is activated from off to on, dual dac boost mode status is activated automatically ... The setting does not save automatically (such as memory volume), by default it will return to high mode again (From the beginning I tried to select high again se 3.5mm mode, but when choosing the option to dual dac boost mode from the smartphone that I use the LG V30 +, then I close (Task) all applications without turning off the music being heard, sometimes it returns to high gain mode when I return to The Shanling application menu ... Likewise, when the position is turned on bluetooth from off to on often experiences like that (Cannot save settings automatically, where the last time history is used between high again mode & dual dac boost mode with different jacks can automatically determine especially in the 3.5mm jack se player that I often use, except for the 2.5mm balance there is only 1 option) ...

Maybe in the next update it can be fixed ...

 

[qOrange]

No, now it just shows "Connected music". It used to show "voice" as well, but not since I upgraded the firmware to 1.7.5 last week and re-paired UP2 to my PC.

@Shanling, any suggestions?

 

[Shanling]

A little input, when bluetooth is activated from off to on, dual dac boost mode status is activated automatically ... The setting does not save automatically (such as memory volume), by default it will return to high mode again (From the beginning I tried to select high again se 3.5mm mode, but when choosing the option to dual dac boost mode from the smartphone that I use the LG V30 +, then I close (Task) all applications without turning off the music being heard, sometimes it returns to high gain mode when I return to The Shanling application menu ... Likewise, when the position is turned on bluetooth from off to on often experiences like that (Cannot save settings automatically, where the last time history is used between high again mode & dual dac boost mode with different jacks can automatically determine especially in the 3.5mm jack se player that I often use, except for the 2.5mm balance there is only 1 option) ...

Maybe in the next update it can be fixed ... ☺

Will check it with the app team.

@Shanling, any suggestions?

No real suggestion for your issue. You might try to re-install firmware on your unit, if that helps in any way. But otherwise there is nothing else to set on the UP2.
When you have it connected to phone, does it still work for voice?

 

[ej8989]

I'm about to buy the UP4 but I've downloaded and read the manual, and it says it's only safe to charge it using 5V/1A charger.
Really? I'll be using this for convenience so I'm planning to charge this with my phone's USB-C fast charger.

 

[Shanling]

I'm about to buy the UP4 but I've downloaded and read the manual, and it says it's only safe to charge it using 5V/1A charger.
Really? I'll be using this for convenience so I'm planning to charge this with my phone's USB-C fast charger.

It's our recommendation to use charger that can provide standard 5V/1A output.
We had some reports of PD chargers not working properly with UP4.