Shanling M5 Impressions & Discussion Thread
Jan 7, 2017 at 9:39 PM Post #902 of 1,113
Jan 8, 2017 at 4:26 AM Post #904 of 1,113
wow... interesting...

@Shanling
, is there any difference on the hardware? of this special edition and the normal M5?

Is the "no digital filter" mode also accompanied with 1x over sampling (~~ Non-oversampling)?




@Judge584
, so you tried this special firmware? can you explain what you heard? and what headphone you are using with?


Please read post #895.
 
Jan 9, 2017 at 2:41 AM Post #906 of 1,113
No problem !

So, now we knows there is a special firmware with no filters... We all hope for a future firmware including the option to choose between all AK4490 filters or even deactivating them ! :wink:

@Shanling: many thanks :wink:
 
Jan 9, 2017 at 12:47 PM Post #907 of 1,113
I've been using the new FX2000 FW, I like it, as it is flawless in terms of overall operation, battery life even seems better by about an hour or so. However, I do like the digital filter adjustments on the original FW 2.0, so I will probably revert back, as the EQ doesn't seems to be doing as much as it used to. I guess making the EQ more precise technically.. but it doesn't change the sound as much as I'd like. Depending on which earphones I'm using, it may require more or less something. But I do like where Shanling is going with all the features they've added on the new FW. 
 
Jan 10, 2017 at 5:39 PM Post #909 of 1,113
Hi,
With fw 2.0 (Classic) I test low pass filter mode. I don't hear difference between steep and gradual.
I use my M5 with Oppo PM3... i test with basic earphone and same result...
If you can explain .

Thanks
 
Jan 10, 2017 at 5:56 PM Post #910 of 1,113
My understanding of the AK4490's built-in filters is that you will only notice their benefits if the recording calls for it. And it turns out, most do not need to use them, although people with a lot of lossy sound files might rely on the filters more. Otherwise, there is very little difference in terms of sound, which is basically how they work on the grace m9XX. I set it to filter #2 or 4 and forgot about it for months.
 
Jan 10, 2017 at 8:23 PM Post #912 of 1,113
On my M5 all files are lossless format. Flac and dsf file.
You say, if i use lossless files lowpass filter mode si not active ?

Tbh, this is above my pay grade, getting into audio engineering and human ear science. Basically, my understanding is the filters work best by helping tame or correct certain types of odd frequencies aberrations and some audio compression artifacts that may tie into them, but they other uses too. You'd have to take a closer look at which of these filters made it into the M5 but most people just stick with one that best suits their listening habits. I chose #4, which is slow roll off, minimum phase. The numbers won't mean anything to M5 users, just look at the filter type and its effects.
 
From the m9XX's user manual:
 
F1 = sharp roll off, linear phase
For linear phase response and time coherency. Fast roll off protects against aliasing distortion from high amplitude high frequency content. Best for recordings that are loud, compressed, and with lots of treble. Will contain substantial ringing before and after transients(pre-echo and post- echo). Note that the ringing occurs at the Nyquist frequency (1⁄2 of the sample rate), so it is not directly audible. However, it can cause intermodulation distortion in downstream components.
 
F2 = slow roll off, linear phase
For linear phase response and time coherency. Best for acoustic music without compression and artificially high levels of treble. Will have very low levels of ringing before and after transients but is susceptible to distortion artifacts caused by high amplitude high frequency information in the program material.
 
F3 = sharp roll off, minimum phase
Not linear phase in the pass band. Fast roll off protects against aliasing distortion from high amplitude high frequency content. Best for recordings that are loud, compressed, and with lots of treble. Will contain substantial ringing caused by transients, but all of the ringing is shifted to after the transient. This can reduce the perceived effects of downstream intermodulation distortion due to the Hass Effect.
 
F4 = slow roll off, minimum phase
Not linear phase in the pass band. Best for acoustic music without compression and artificially high levels of treble. Will have very low level of ringing caused by transients and ringing will be shifted to after the transient. 



 
Jan 13, 2017 at 8:49 PM Post #913 of 1,113
Hello everyone! 
I've just recieved my Shanling M5 from MassDrop!
I must say....the sound is....a huge improvement...from my aging DAP the Cowon S9!
But the quality of the DAP body is a bit disappointing for me..the cut out for the glass/screen portion of the player...is a bit too wide on the right bottom corner and the right side...
so...i see a very tiny metal portion of the innards.
Anyone having the same QC issue?
But it is very minor...so i won't be doing an exchange or anything.
 
Thank you so much!
 
Tiyako!
 
Jan 14, 2017 at 2:23 AM Post #914 of 1,113
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