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BannedAKA sunjam2, sunjam3
Not sure how many of us here would be interested in such topic as I believe that most people here would understand that different DAC would sounds differently, even with the so-called "audibly transparent" (as defined below). (I believe It is not the same transparent that most people use)
The above topic was started in another famous audio science review forum and have spanned more than 445 pages already as many people doubt the claim from the senior members there (i.e. the senior members there claim "all audiibly transparent DACs sound the same". Other people who questioned the claim with valid concerns are banned from further reply.
Before we proceed further, we have to define the term audbily transparent they use as it is very different from our understading of the term.
The term, audibly transparent, they used is indeed extremely mis-leading. From their point of view, two different DACs are considered as "audibly transparent" if "the measurements of two different DACs are good enough (i.e. the measurements are better than certain dB in SINAD, SNR, etc)".
With these "audibly transparent" DACs, they claim that listener cannot tell the difference from the audio output of these DACs because the difference is less than certain dB, the listener cannot tell the difference between these DACs."
They further said that "if you can hear any difference, it must be your brain is fooling you, or you are using a poorly designed re-construction filter that causes the difference".
Hmm... this sound familiar... isn't it a unfalsibile claim? It is a characteristic of pseudo science claim...
Here we just have a latest Youtube video showing that the DACs does matter. Proof that DACs matter! - Blind ABX Testing (youtube.com) to debunk such pseudo science claim.
What do you think? You trust those senior members in the other forum that all DACs sounds the same (no matter it is AKM, ESS, CS, TI, or discrete) as long as they are all measured as "good enough"?
or you think the YouTube video above make more sense?
The above topic was started in another famous audio science review forum and have spanned more than 445 pages already as many people doubt the claim from the senior members there (i.e. the senior members there claim "all audiibly transparent DACs sound the same". Other people who questioned the claim with valid concerns are banned from further reply.
Before we proceed further, we have to define the term audbily transparent they use as it is very different from our understading of the term.
The term, audibly transparent, they used is indeed extremely mis-leading. From their point of view, two different DACs are considered as "audibly transparent" if "the measurements of two different DACs are good enough (i.e. the measurements are better than certain dB in SINAD, SNR, etc)".
With these "audibly transparent" DACs, they claim that listener cannot tell the difference from the audio output of these DACs because the difference is less than certain dB, the listener cannot tell the difference between these DACs."
They further said that "if you can hear any difference, it must be your brain is fooling you, or you are using a poorly designed re-construction filter that causes the difference".
Hmm... this sound familiar... isn't it a unfalsibile claim? It is a characteristic of pseudo science claim...
Here we just have a latest Youtube video showing that the DACs does matter. Proof that DACs matter! - Blind ABX Testing (youtube.com) to debunk such pseudo science claim.
What do you think? You trust those senior members in the other forum that all DACs sounds the same (no matter it is AKM, ESS, CS, TI, or discrete) as long as they are all measured as "good enough"?
or you think the YouTube video above make more sense?
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