silversurfer616
1000+ Head-Fier
It is fantastic( I have both) but only when your source is of the same quality...and you need to go balanced.
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Feliks Audio Elise?Finally in a $ position to get as close to end game as I could come & after a TON of reading,thinking & listening I just pulled the trigger on new 800S!Found online new with FULL Factory Warranty & free shipping for $1360.00!
I will burn them in on my Burson C3P a few hundred hours while I shop for a new tube amp..Any suggestions on an amp under $1500.00,it will be fed signal from C3P Dac...
I use Xduoo TA-20 and like it, especially with RCA Black Plates 1950 tubes bought on Ebay. Not expensive: the amp is about USD366 on Amazon. Check the reviews. You’ll be surprised.Finally in a $ position to get as close to end game as I could come & after a TON of reading,thinking & listening I just pulled the trigger on new 800S!Found online new with FULL Factory Warranty & free shipping for $1360.00!
I will burn them in on my Burson C3P a few hundred hours while I shop for a new tube amp..Any suggestions on an amp under $1500.00,it will be fed signal from C3P Dac...
Sadly I've never heard what my 800S's are capable of in terms of bass. My head is too narrow for the wide headband, so I get lots of gapping between my head and the ear pads, especially near the top of the pads. People thought I was crazy when I said I hear more bass from my HD600 but it's true. The narrower headband, stronger clamp and thicker ear pads of the HD600 simply fits the shape of my head better. I recently bought a miniDSP EARS to test the effect of seal on bass response and was shocked by how big an effect it has. Even breaking the seal slightly can cause as much as 15dB loss of sub-bass. This applies to all the headphones I measured, not just the HD800S, and demonstrates how important fit is when it comes to maximising bass performance. I doubt I'll ever be able to experience what my HD800S's are capable of so am probably going to end up selling them...Oh and if you wear specs......take them off and hear the bass arrive!
I have the ifi zen dac, I use the analogue bass boost and find it complements the HD800s very well, you might want to try before giving up on this excellent pair of can.Sadly I've never heard what my 800S's are capable of in terms of bass. My head is too narrow for the wide headband, so I get lots of gapping between my head and the ear pads, especially near the top of the pads. People thought I was crazy when I said I hear more bass from my HD600 but it's true. The narrower headband, stronger clamp and thicker ear pads of the HD600 simply fits the shape of my head better. I recently bought a miniDSP EARS to test the effect of seal on bass response and was shocked by how big an effect it has. Even breaking the seal slightly can cause as much as 15dB loss of sub-bass. This applies to all the headphones I measured, not just the HD800S, and demonstrates how important fit is when it comes to maximising bass performance. I doubt I'll ever be able to experience what my HD800S's are capable of so am probably going to end up selling them...
I appreciate the help but I don't think an electronic bass boost is going to be enough to cure my problem. To get an idea of how much bass I'm losing, lift your HD800S a few mm's off your ears while music is playing, - the bass almost disappears. That's the size of problem I'm facing! I've read that its possible to bend the headband to make it narrower by tying shoe laces around it for a few days. This might make the ear pads seal better around my ears. However I don't want to do anything that might affect re-sale value as the headphones are in absolutely mint condition at the moment.I have the ifi zen dac, I use the analogue bass boost and find it complements the HD800s very well, you might want to try before giving up on this excellent pair of can.
How about the Quad PA One+ which runs 6SN7 dual triodes (so not SET) but has a balanced headphone out and I think it retails for $1600 depending on the exchange rate. It also has a DAC onboard."Just to add a bit more to the discussion can I say that tubes/valves are the best way to go for the HD800S that I have found. This is not to say that SS amps are poor or don't work but overall from what I have heard for myself then valves are best, more over triodes are king and SETs are the pinnacle for this headphone. If you can also get a amp that aloows balanced use the HD800S will step up in performance and also make sue the amp can be optimised for 300 ohm impedance headphones as not every amp is."
I've been burning up Google & find no SET or any tube amps with Balanced operation except OVER my $1500.00 budget....Any recommendation?ALL the OTL's I find are Single Ended only...
Waiting on confirmation from Quad that it will drive the almost 600 ohm load of the 800S.I had a VA-One & I know the PA-One+ will sound amazing & I could flip my Burson to recoup half the cost of the Quad..I also put a few not often worn watches up for sale & the Dennis Had Dragon Inspire is well within budget reach,especially since I wouldn't need the fancy transformers(+$400.00) for low impedance cans.Truly stunning hand built SET with Balanced out..How about the Quad PA One+ which runs 6SN7 dual triodes (so not SET) but has a balanced headphone out and I think it retails for $1600 depending on the exchange rate. It also has a DAC onboard.