[Dobrescu George]

  Either the HD800 classic or youngster will compliment the TH900. They are much closer to eachother than to the TH900. 

I think that I am looking the most after a review against a TH900 than other headphones, though the comfort in un-beatable on sennheiser hd800. Too sad it seems that they taking away the peak at 6khz means taking away the treble energy

 

[robm321]

Have these comparisons been with unmodded HD800s so far?

 

[Mr Rick]

  I think that I am looking the most after a review against a TH900 than other headphones, though the comfort in un-beatable on sennheiser hd800. Too sad it seems that they taking away the peak at 6khz means taking away the treble energy

 
If you like the treble energy buy the original HD800. They haven't stopped selling them.

 

[shabta]

 Too sad it seems that they taking away the peak at 6khz means taking away the treble energy

The HD800 S definitely sounds less airy. 

  Have these comparisons been with unmodded HD800s so far?

My comparison has been between two unmodified 'phones. My HD800 has an upgraded cable (custom) and newish pads. The Youngster is all stock.

 

[robm321]

^ Thanks. I definitely wonder how close the modded would be to the S as well as the stock version.
 
I wouldn't hate it if the HD800 ended up being preferable by some in the end considering how many used ones that will become available.

 

[shabta]

  ^ Thanks. I definitely wonder how close the modded would be to the S as well as the stock version.
 
I wouldn't hate it if the HD800 ended up being preferable by some in the end considering how many used ones that will become available.

I imagine it will soon be a very good time to buy a used HD800. I didn't like my HD800 modded. And based on Sorrodje's graph from a few days ago, it seems the HD800 S is better behaved in the 6khz region. That seems about right to my ears...

 

[Dobrescu George]

   
If you like the treble energy buy the original HD800. They haven't stopped selling them.

I am afraid that the 6khz peak does not cut it either

.
 
I need my treble energy peak to start at around 10khz and to hit a peak at 12-13khz, if this happens earlies it is a hot treble, and distracts from music. 
 
Ie800 are perfect in this aspect. 
 

 
I really hope for something similar in the treble region. 
 
 
If you watch the graphs for the old HD800 
 

 
 
The peak starts way too early, and it hits rock bottom at 10khz, where I really want my treble to be at. 
 
The 6khz peak masks the treble after it and this kills it for me with the original, so this is why I am still sticking around here for a while

 
Does anyone think that I should be looking into TH900 instead? (th900 also has a peak in 7-8-9khz instead of my beloved 10-12-14 khz area ) My other choice for perfect sound was Sig dj from ultrasone, which is a different beast entirely. Too bad that only HD800 is that comfortable..
 
Da fuuuuu Sig dj has a bad fr, I just looked it up on golden ears. But so does TH900 compared to Sennheiser Ie800 

 

[reihead]

Subbed!
Curious to read about these
I just modded my HD800 and right away I can hear the difference, need more time for a proper conclusion but so far I like what I'm hearing.

 

[james444]

  Da fuuuuu Sig dj has a bad fr, I just looked it up on golden ears. But so does TH900 compared to Sennheiser Ie800 

 

Spoiler: OT

http://ko.goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&page=3&document_srl=5443858
http://ko.goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&page=4&document_srl=5340268
http://ko.goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&page=2&document_srl=5705574

 

[plakat]

  I am afraid that the 6khz peak does not cut it either

.
 
I need my treble energy peak to start at around 10khz and to hit a peak at 12-13khz, if this happens earlies it is a hot treble, and distracts from music. 

 
I know what you mean, but don't give too much to the FRs... I remember Tyll once saying that >10kHz measurements are very unreliable.

 

[sinae]

  I am afraid that the 6khz peak does not cut it either

.
 
I need my treble energy peak to start at around 10khz and to hit a peak at 12-13khz, if this happens earlies it is a hot treble, and distracts from music. 
 
Ie800 are perfect in this aspect. 
 

 
I really hope for something similar in the treble region. 
 
 
If you watch the graphs for the old HD800 
 

 
 
The peak starts way too early, and it hits rock bottom at 10khz, where I really want my treble to be at. 
 
The 6khz peak masks the treble after it and this kills it for me with the original, so this is why I am still sticking around here for a while

 
Does anyone think that I should be looking into TH900 instead? (th900 also has a peak in 7-8-9khz instead of my beloved 10-12-14 khz area ) My other choice for perfect sound was Sig dj from ultrasone, which is a different beast entirely. Too bad that only HD800 is that comfortable..
 
Da fuuuuu Sig dj has a bad fr, I just looked it up on golden ears. But so does TH900 compared to Sennheiser Ie800 

 
im the same but the ie800 drop too much in the mid.. from the graph.. but yeah i don't understand how people can call that hd800 neutral from the graph...
 
i think i'll go stax sr-l700 then.. im sure the midrange curve is more adequate.. and highs and lower distortion.. and more resolution..

 

[Beagle]

  I don't think sennheiser are putting the s on the headband! which is stupid. It was noticed in the video - if they are calling it the HD800s then they should have that printed on the damn can 

 
That would take time, effort and money.
 

  For the folks in Canada, the HD800S will retail for $2,199.95, and will be available in January.
 
(man almost twice the price of what I paid for my HD800...)

 
They can keep it.
 

 
Basically. Unfortuantely, Sennheiser is raising the price because they can; in that regard they are no different than any other headphone maker at this time.
 
Of course, you will get pushback for this "combative" opinion due to post-purchase rationalization, the halo effect, and so on.

 
If they sound 20% better than the HD800, fine. But "better" is always subjective anyway. I've been around here long enough (and owned enough headphones) to know that patience is a virtue. The 'new-toy' and 'sense of pride' effect is immediate but the moaning will eventually begin. It always does.

 

[Deftone]

thanks to those taking the time to do impressions. 
 
happy new year to all! 2016

 

[Dobrescu George]

   

Spoiler: OT

http://ko.goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&page=3&document_srl=5443858
http://ko.goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&page=4&document_srl=5340268
http://ko.goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&page=2&document_srl=5705574

I stand corrected. Thanks!
 
At least I do know how m40X sounds like, and it is bad in every possible way, so I feel sorry for looking too much into fr.
 
If we put it that way, I listened to sig dj for a while, and I know thaat it actually sounds really nice, I was just amazed that when I listened to it, I never thought that the FR would look like that. I feel sorry for the bass roll off though, which was not as bad as other ultrasones I heard, but was there.  
 
 

   
I know what you mean, but don't give too much to the FRs... I remember Tyll once saying that >10kHz measurements are very unreliable.

Thanks for this too!
 
 

   
im the same but the ie800 drop too much in the mid.. from the graph.. but yeah i don't understand how people can call that hd800 neutral from the graph...
 
i think i'll go stax sr-l700 then.. im sure the midrange curve is more adequate.. and highs and lower distortion.. and more resolution..

 
You should hear either before getting one, because as I was corrected earlier, how fr looks like is one part of the problem. The other is about the other characteristics of sound, and we should all take into account that fr is eq-able, but detail, soundstage, microdetails, texture, comfort are not EQ-able, so this is why HD800S is still a very important factor of attraction for me 

.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Happy new year 2016 to everyone!

 

[ubs28]

  The HD800 S definitely sounds less airy. 
My comparison has been between two unmodified 'phones. My HD800 has an upgraded cable (custom) and newish pads. The Youngster is all stock.

 
Not according to my ears.