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2k price would definitely not be market suicide and would be cheaper than I'm expecting.
It won't be, but it *should* be. People have to learn to say no.
2k price would definitely not be market suicide and would be cheaper than I'm expecting.
2k price would definitely not be market suicide and would be cheaper than I'm expecting. Considering their previous models 2k msrp would probably do very well.
Doesn't make sense to me why you think designing a headphone is any different than designing any other product, but then again, what do I know, I'm just a mechanical engineer.
Let me clarify, the best headphone ever made is a joke in terms of engineering compared to something like a base model smartphone you can buy for 100-150 dollars. And I'm not exaggerating at all. The only reason headphones sell for more than 500 dollars is because people are willing to pay that much, that enables manufacturers to have high profit margins and sell fewer products, instead of having smaller profit margins and having to manufacture and sell more units for the same amount of profit. (seriously, no sarcasm)
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Headphones are simple to make, but good headphones are hard to make. Very hard sometimes.
Today, with todays technology, headphones like HD800's are easier to design and manufacture if you start from scratch than HD580's were 25 years ago, yet, they were sold for 300-400 dollars, not 2000. That's my point. Prices are too high, and advances too small. When you go from a BMW 5 series to a 7 series, you get a considerably better car, in every way, yet, you only pay 30% more, not 4-5 times more for a small improvement. All markets function in that way, except for hi-fi markets. Why? Because the consumers allow it. Not only allow it, some love the fact that they're paying a lot of money for headphones and own something very exclusive that most people can't afford.
Why is everyone getting so stressed out when you don't know the official price yet and almost no one has listened to them????
I don't get it. It's like people are kind of requesting higher prices. So many threads were the manufacturer is clearly expecting feedback on price by the community and suggestions of absurd prices start to pop up instead the opposite. Maybe I'm poor, or perhaps I'm just not satisfied about the direction the hobby is heading.
I was listening to Tyll's Big Sound videos the other day, and there was an interesting discussion between him and Bob Katz about EQ'ing HP's to the point where the high end units would effectively sound the same.
Although I would love to hear more from both Tyll and Bob on how they would approach this, it does beg the obvious question about how much better $1k+ can get when set up correctly.
I have a pair of HD700's that I've now eq'd to an agreed set of Foobar improvements for the HD 700, and they are so much better. It's always made me question about whether its worth going to the HD 800 - which I have auditioned many times.
Whilst I'm tempted to go to a higher model at some point, I'm vary wary of the law of diminishing returns
I was listening to Tyll's Big Sound videos the other day, and there was an interesting discussion between him and Bob Katz about EQ'ing HP's to the point where the high end units would effectively sound the same.
Although I would love to hear more from both Tyll and Bob on how they would approach this, it does beg the obvious question about how much better $1k+ can get when set up correctly.
I have a pair of HD700's that I've now eq'd to an agreed set of Foobar improvements for the HD 700, and they are so much better. It's always made me question about whether its worth going to the HD 800 - which I have auditioned many times.
Whilst I'm tempted to go to a higher model at some point, I'm vary wary of the law of diminishing returns