jamesjames
500+ Head-Fier
That's been my experience too.I can't listen to headphones without using Crossfeed since I started using that option with my RME, it allows me to listen for hours without any fattique.
That's been my experience too.I can't listen to headphones without using Crossfeed since I started using that option with my RME, it allows me to listen for hours without any fattique.
I have an earlier version of Meier's crossfeed implementation. He gave a three level switch to address the problem with bass. On the corda soul I would guess, as he used the HD800S in it's development, the results with the HD800S are excellent. Look forward to your review.Of course the use of crossfeed is entirely something for people to make their own decisions in life about, like so many things.
My suggestion is that people might like to try it if they have not. It is not just something for historic recordings. I think that often it goes a significant way to remedy issues that occur with the headphone "superstereo" effect.
I use crossfeed about 90% of the time. I use it with the HD800S headphones. The HD800S have famously wonderful imaging capabilities but they can't overcome the "superstereo" effect.
If you like superstereo, then great, enjoy it. I have to say that the word superstereo does sound rather cool in a 60s kind of a way perhaps.
There are different crossfeed implementations by different engineers. The crossfeed on my recently acquired Meier Audio Corda Soul Mk II is really quite superb actually, however I will write about that in greater length when I do my review of that DAC/amp.
I agree - I don't listen these days without crossfeed (except binaural recordings). The basic point is that phones don't present information the way loudspeakers do - and most music is engineered for loudspeaker presentation. Crossfeed addresses this to some extent. I accept crossfeed might be characterised as a form of EQ. Equally, the departure from loudspeaker presentation involved in all headphone listening might be characterised as a form of EQ. I don't think this extra labelling really matters. The implementations vary, but all seek to address the basic physical difference between loudspeakers and phones. Crossfeed doesn't just address a sense of fatigue. It changes what we hear in a significant way. I think it can build on the superb imaging of the HD800S to produce an effect of realism that I've not heard matched by any loudspeaker. But, as many here have observed, there's no need to rely on various opinions about it. Any interested listener can just try it.Of course the use of crossfeed is entirely something for people to make their own decisions in life about, like so many things.
My suggestion is that people might like to try it if they have not. It is not just something for historic recordings. I think that often it goes a significant way to remedy issues that occur with the headphone "superstereo" effect.
I use crossfeed about 90% of the time. I use it with the HD800S headphones. The HD800S have famously wonderful imaging capabilities but they can't overcome the "superstereo" effect.
If you like superstereo, then great, enjoy it. I have to say that the word superstereo does sound rather cool in a 60s kind of a way perhaps.
There are different crossfeed implementations by different engineers. The crossfeed on my recently acquired Meier Audio Corda Soul Mk II is really quite superb actually, however I will write about that in greater length when I do my review of that DAC/amp.
I use Audirvana with the Goodherz can opener studio crossfeed plug in.Chord TT has none,low,med,high crossfeed. Started med and drifted to none. Then there’s roons crossfeed…haven’t tried. I do understand the “speaker” effect, but the freak of phones to me is the imagery it creates, unlike speakers…but as JamesJames suggests, I’ll cycle through them next session…
Most music today is at least in part and often times only mixed and mastered on headphones. There are all these young people with computers making music in their bedroom with a pair of headphones, some of them make super popular music. But that ethos has spread almost everywhere. Now a days even if you use speakers for mixing and mastering, it is generally understood that headphones are a necessary part of the process. There is almost no such thing as a natural recording, if you look at all the processing that goes into recording, mixing and mastering even acoustic music. So I don't really agree that the problem (if there is one) with headphone listening is that it is somehow not considered by today's recorded music. It's more likely that if it is a problem, it's a problem for those listeners who use speakers. But I don't really think it matters much either way.I agree - I don't listen these days without crossfeed (except binaural recordings). The basic point is that phones don't present information the way loudspeakers do - and most music is engineered for loudspeaker presentation. Crossfeed addresses this to some extent. I accept crossfeed might be characterised as a form of EQ. Equally, the departure from loudspeaker presentation involved in all headphone listening might be characterised as a form of EQ. I don't think this extra labelling really matters. The implementations vary, but all seek to address the basic physical difference between loudspeakers and phones. Crossfeed doesn't just address a sense of fatigue. It changes what we hear in a significant way. I think it can build on the superb imaging of the HD800S to produce an effect of realism that I've not heard matched by any loudspeaker. But, as many here have observed, there's no need to rely on various opinions about it. Any interested listener can just try it.
That is exactly what i expirienced when i was playing around with the crossfeed functionality of the RME ADI 2 DAC FS. However I prefer my HD 800s without crossfeed.My experience with Crossfeed is that you lose a little soundstage but gain significantly less listen fatigue, but I think it's worth it, especially with 800s that already have an extreme soundstage. but I haven't experienced losing any bass at all.