Rob80b
Headphoneus Supremus
My 800S are my first choice but the bass on my new 650s is anything but rolled off IMHO it matches my "S"s and it extends fairly deep with good impact at least off my Bryston combo, and the biggest glowing flaw for me on the older 600/650s was a darkness or veil and muddy base which is not the case with my current pair.....But they DO have glaring flaws and those flaws ...........The 650 also has rolled off bass extension ............
The 800/800S obviously offer more air and really open up the sound stage and offer quite a different perspective, which I normally prefer but I wouldn't dismiss the 650s whole hardheartedly....and then there is the pricing to consider....for many the 800 are in fools territory.....lol
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