[Davidzak64]

Yes, the HD650, in contrast to the common believe, they have a shouting upper mid range.

Thanks for the reply. Does the HD600 have the shout also?

 

[Twizzleshnizzle]

Good call! Lionel Richie's not shouting at me anymore. I was getting a little frustrated trying to EQ the shout.

Excellent news

 

[Twizzleshnizzle]

Thanks for the reply. Does the HD600 have the shout also?

No, it's very neutral throughout

 

[b0lt 0ns]

I disagree that the 650 is shouty (to me) and definitely not more than the 600. To me the 650 is a laid back version of the 600.

 

[Ichos]

Thanks for the reply. Does the HD600 have the shout also?

Sorry but I don't have the 600 and I can't remember since it's been almost a decade since I owned one.

 

[jonathan c]

I like the sound signature of the 650, anyone else find the vocals a bit shouty? Maybe I'm just not used to the forward midrange. Eq smooths the shout but I lose some of the magic in the process.

It’s worth repeating: Custom Cans UK mods + driver-side / ear-side foam removal / mesh replacement. Think, then, of the title of a 1971 Les McCann album (Atlantic - SD 1603): Invitation To Openness.

 

[Davidzak64]

It’s worth repeating: Custom Cans UK mods + driver-side / ear-side foam removal / mesh replacement. Think, then, of the title of a 1971 Les McCann album (Atlantic - SD 1603): Invitation To Openness.

I definitely have future plans for mods. At the moment I'm just enjoying the stock sound. I find it very soothing and warm. Thanks for the tip.

 

[jonathan c]

• I own both the HD600 and the HD6XX. I have found neither of them to be shouty. The 6XX has a very slight bass hump vs the 600. I prefer the 6XX on some recordings, the 600 on other recordings. I do not use ‘electronic’ EQ - headphones (unadorned / modded) are my EQ .
• I find that the 600 / 6XX are natural sounding. A serious headphoner should have either - better yet, both. Also, 600 / 6XX deserve a great h/p cable. [Norne Audio Vygarde: a copper/silver interwoven cable .)

 

[Davidzak64]

• I own both the HD600 and the HD6XX. I have found neither of them to be shouty. The 6XX has a very slight bass hump vs the 600. I prefer the 6XX on some recordings, the 600 on other recordings. I do not use ‘electronic’ EQ - headphones (unadorned / modded) are my EQ .
• I find that the 600 / 6XX are natural sounding. A serious headphoner should have either - better yet, both. Also, 600 / 6XX deserve a great h/p cable. [Norne Audio Vygarde: a copper/silver interwoven cable .)

The 650 are only shouty on certain recordings but I found them to smooth out nicely with the Luxman's preamp. None of my other HP'S have a Lionel Richie shouty voice when in direct mode through the same amp. I find an EQ to be a great tool when needed. Just like modding but only alot cheaper. Whatever sounds best in my book.
FWIW, My K340 are stock with EQ and nothing I've heard so far comes close to them for my taste but I haven't heard too much of the gourmet stuff like yourself.

 

[Luckyleo]

• I own both the HD600 and the HD6XX. I have found neither of them to be shouty. The 6XX has a very slight bass hump vs the 600. I prefer the 6XX on some recordings, the 600 on other recordings. I do not use ‘electronic’ EQ - headphones (unadorned / modded) are my EQ .
• I find that the 600 / 6XX are natural sounding. A serious headphoner should have either - better yet, both. Also, 600 / 6XX deserve a great h/p cable. [Norne Audio Vygarde: a copper/silver interwoven cable .)

Jonathan, I'm not familiar with Norne Audio cables. I see them on the internet and see that they aren't outrageously expensive, but still a piece of change for me, as I'm retired.....

My experience with 3rd party cables is that I hear a difference most often compared to the stock cables. However, it is incremental in nature. Not earth shattering differences........ Please confirm my suspicions that the Norne Audio cables would provide incremental improvement to the stock 6xx cable.

Thanks!!

Leo

 

[b0lt 0ns]

• I own both the HD600 and the HD6XX. I have found neither of them to be shouty. The 6XX has a very slight bass hump vs the 600. I prefer the 6XX on some recordings, the 600 on other recordings. I do not use ‘electronic’ EQ - headphones (unadorned / modded) are my EQ .
• I find that the 600 / 6XX are natural sounding. A serious headphoner should have either - better yet, both. Also, 600 / 6XX deserve a great h/p cable. [Norne Audio Vygarde: a copper/silver interwoven cable .)

I agree with the first part. They sound fine without EQ although the 600 to me is a lot sharper sounding all around compared to the 650. EQing to Harman is free and I'm not a purist so ill do whatever makes them sound the best. I would have to be seriously convinced of an audible difference to justify spending the price of the headphone itself on a cable no matter how nice the cable is (the norne cables are certainly nice).

 

[jonathan c]

Jonathan, I'm not familiar with Norne Audio cables. I see them on the internet and see that they aren't outrageously expensive, but still a piece of change for me, as I'm retired.....

My experience with 3rd party cables is that I hear a difference most often compared to the stock cables. However, it is incremental in nature. Not earth shattering differences........ Please confirm my suspicions that the Norne Audio cables would provide incremental improvement to the stock 6xx cable.

Thanks!!

Leo

• I would not say that the Norne Audio Vygarde is ‘earth shattering’ or a $100 equivalent for a $1 price. What it is is incremental & excellent.
• It brings added clarity, dimensionality, dynamics to these headphones that are already fantastic: Audeze LCD-4, LCD-X; Focal Clear; Gjallarhorn 50 JM Edition; Sennheiser HD600, HD6XX; ZMF Aeolus, Atrium, Atticus, Auteur, Eikon.
• I say this from my use. Then there is Trevor’s incomparable workmanship.
• Also, please browse the Norne Audio threads in the ‘Cables, Power, Tweaks’ forum here in Head-Fi.org.

 

[Twizzleshnizzle]

Unless we're all using exactly the same equipment our experiences are of course going to vary. Source can make or break a headphone. That's why some of us get horribly caught up in tube rolling (guilty)

 

[AnalogEuphoria]

Yes they are a bit shouty and it has caused fatigue for me before, 660S doesn't have that problem but the treble isn't as smooth.

 

[r343]

Lmao 3th time purchasing HD6XX, when will it be enough. Actually want to test it out with current equipment.

Owned HD660s for brief time and initially declared it superior to HD6XX however after a while of using something started to bugger me in treble, like slight grittiness combined with forward sound as i remembered HD6XX smooth as pillow, HD660s was not that.