Sennheiser HD650 & Massdrop HD6XX Impressions Thread

Apr 29, 2025 at 5:55 PM Post #46,936 of 46,955
Based on (self-imposed) budget constraints, I’ll probably never get to fully appreciate how well these things can scale. But for the time being they sound great with what I have…………..
IMG_1395.jpg


And the Custom Cans mod doesn’t hurt either. Best $46 I’ve spent in a long time.
 
Apr 29, 2025 at 8:12 PM Post #46,938 of 46,955
Sometimes good enough is just that. Not everyone has the budget or cares to spend above a certain amount on audio equipment. As long as you enjoy what you have.

Exactly that, some people dont like the idea they are being nickel and dimed for just for luxury item status. many totl headphones are actually poorly tuned (not just a different FR but actually poor) and just to be a halo product for the brand, there are exceptions of course but 600/650 shows you really dont need to spend much for really great sound.

One reason i think 650 became so popular is because it came out in the early 2000's a time when most other headphones were quite bright and peaky and then you couple that with early DACs and CD players which were said to be quite brittle and harsh, the smooth and relaxed 650 would have been just the ticket. its remarkable just because of how unremarkable it is if that makes any sense.
 
Apr 29, 2025 at 9:45 PM Post #46,939 of 46,955
its remarkable just because of how unremarkable it is
I will continue and finish it off...

The HD650/HD600 doesn’t do anything flashy, but it does everything well enough and without obvious flaws. That’s what gives it lasting value. It's not chasing the flavor of the month — it just works.

High-end “TOTL” headphones often exist more for prestige and marketing (halo effect) than for actual sonic improvement. They use exotic materials and flashy designs, but tuning can suffer as a result. Sometimes it’s intentional (to wow at first listen with exaggerated bass or treble), and sometimes it's the result of chasing a “house sound” that doesn’t age well.

Released in 2003, it doubled down on a warm, smooth, and non-fatiguing tuning compared to the HD600 — the kind that pairs well with long listening sessions and a wide range of music. In a time when many headphones had rising treble or V-shaped frequency responses, the HD 650 offered a relaxed mid-centric sound that tamed the harshness of early digital sources.
Pre- and early 2000s DACs, CD players, and even some solid-state amps were clinical, sterile, brittle and harsh, due to immature digital filtering, jitters, grainy, glassy, and low-end op-amp designs. Pairing those with bright headphones often yielded listener fatigue. The HD 650's warmth and rolled-off treble provided a kind of analog-like softness — very desirable at the time and still is today. Nothing metallic and unnatural about the HD series.

While there are headphones with greater technical refinement and resolution, few can match the unique charm, natural tonality, price and timeless musicality these offer. For this reason, everyone should own a pair — whether for daily listening or simply to stash away as a reminder of greatness through simplicity.

And this is why summit-fi cult is close to a joke class and must be mock and ridicule...
 
Apr 29, 2025 at 9:52 PM Post #46,940 of 46,955
I think it was Tyll hertsens who said the 580/600/650 was highly musical, smooth and enjoyable compared to the over hyped upper frequency sounding AKG. grado and Beyerdynamic headphones of that time. they seemed too dull in the treble in comparison and its how it got its sennheiser veil meme and its own dedicated emoji :deadhorse:
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 12:50 AM Post #46,941 of 46,955
I think it was Tyll hertsens who said the 580/600/650 was highly musical, smooth and enjoyable compared to the over hyped upper frequency sounding AKG. grado and Beyerdynamic headphones of that time. they seemed too dull in the treble in comparison and its how it got its sennheiser veil meme and its own dedicated emoji :deadhorse:
Actually, most measurements of the frequency response of the HD 650 don't show any treble roll off at all. The "veil" must have been just a result of comparisons with those really bright headphones that dominated the scene of reference headphones of the time. To stretch this even more one could think that it was a marketing weapon of competitors' supporters and dealers to save sales of their more aggressive and fatiguing models.
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 2:26 AM Post #46,942 of 46,955
Based on (self-imposed) budget constraints, I’ll probably never get to fully appreciate how well these things can scale. But for the time being they sound great with what I have…………..
IMG_1395.jpg

And the Custom Cans mod doesn’t hurt either. Best $46 I’ve spent in a long time.
Nice System!

this is about what I would call a reasonable source chain for theses headphones, don’t bother spending thousands to see if it scales.
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 5:39 AM Post #46,943 of 46,955
Actually, most measurements of the frequency response of the HD 650 don't show any treble roll off at all. The "veil" must have been just a result of comparisons with those really bright headphones that dominated the scene of reference headphones of the time. To stretch this even more one could think that it was a marketing weapon of competitors' supporters and dealers to save sales of their more aggressive and fatiguing models.
Yep. When the competition was Grado and Beyer, it's easy to think the HD650 was rolled-off even though it's relatively neutral.
 
Last edited:
Apr 30, 2025 at 12:23 PM Post #46,945 of 46,955
its remarkable just because of how unremarkable it is if that makes any sense.
If sheer competency makes something anonymous, then the HD 6XX/650 would be invisible.

As others have said, it's not flashy. It's not tuned to the frequency curve du jour. It just sounds great with a wide variety of music, every time.
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 2:12 PM Post #46,947 of 46,955
Does anyone prefer these or even the JAR600 to the Atrium?
I don't have the JAR600, but do have the 6xx (previously owned the 660s1, 660s2 as well). For me, the answer is a resounding no. The Atrium is a far superior headphone from a sonic standpoint. Soundstage, bass, timbre, mids, and treble all seem better on the Atrium to me. Now if you ask the ratio of sonic bliss/cost there is no comparison the Sennheiser wins (again, for me)
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 3:39 PM Post #46,948 of 46,955
Nice System!

this is about what I would call a reasonable source chain for theses headphones, don’t bother spending thousands to see if it scales.
Yeah it's priced right. But I'm still struggling with the synergy here. I haven't heard it but I see many folks saying HD6XX and Valhalla are a great match - that might be a better way to go if intending to stay in the Schiit family and keep the price under $400. We'll see what the VH3 brings tomorrow :wink:
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 3:58 PM Post #46,949 of 46,955
Yeah it's priced right. But I'm still struggling with the synergy here. I haven't heard it but I see many folks saying HD6XX and Valhalla are a great match - that might be a better way to go if intending to stay in the Schiit family and keep the price under $400. We'll see what the VH3 brings tomorrow :wink:

As always it depends on your own perception and tastes. 650 on Valhalla 2 is the worst synergy I’ve ever heard but to another person it could be perfection.
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 6:31 PM Post #46,950 of 46,955
As always it depends on your own perception and tastes. 650 on Valhalla 2 is the worst synergy I’ve ever heard but to another person it could be perfection.
I haven't heard the Valhalla 2, but the original Valhalla has wonderful synergy with the HD 650 - at least to my ears. YMMV, as usual.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top