Schiit Yggdrasil Impressions thread

[gefski]

Hello , I got used used Yggy first generation for real good price, I decided to upgrade to OG 2 and USB Unision , I got back my dac last Tuesday, after I received I turned on and until now it’s on , my question is , is it enough to burn , should I keep playing music or not , just keep Yggy on ?
Thank you !

Just leave it on full time & play music whenever. My current Yggy has been on for 4 years +, even when I took it to meets.

 

[Dr. Cube]

I don't hear any difference after about an hour or two of warmup, and I only turn it on a while before I am going to use it. I think that's shorter than what most people say, though, which is usually a few or several days. For me, the 45-watt power draw is enough to not want to leave it on all the time.

 

[Gene4797]

Just leave it on full time & play music whenever. My current Yggy has been on for 4 years +, even when I took it to meets.

Thank you for response and advice, I’m living Dac on all the time , yesterday was a week since I got my Yggy back from Schiit and until today seems to me sound getting better , I have other dac , Mytek Manhattan 2 and now to me hard to choose which one to me more enjoyable

 

[DougD]

I am currently running Yggy OG with optical input from my Cambridge CD transport

Is the coax digital input better? I think i read somewhere toslink coax sounds better than optical. But optical tends to be a higher bandwidth connection…

10 bucks to buy a basic but well-made digital coax cable.

No need to debate the theoretical pros and cons on equipment in general, when you can test digital coax vs optical ... with your actual gear (including your actual biological audio sensors and your actual biological sound processing unit) ... for such a low price.

A digitial coax interconnect will either sound better to you (a win) or you'll remove any lingering uncertainty that you're not hearing the very best your gear can deliver (also a win.) For $10.

 

[pfurey89]

What’s the longest USB cable one could run on this without messing things up?

 

[George Hincapie]

What’s the longest USB cable one could run on this without messing things up?

Better to run ethernet to a Pi4 right next to it and keep USB run to < 1m.

 

[belgiangenius]

I've been dancing around buying an Yggy for a long time. I haven't committed though, but not sure why. I guess not being able to choose between OG and LiM? I am not the sort of person to have multiple DACs etc. I don't have the rack space for a start. Hopefully I will give my head a shake and give one a go soon.

I have both sets of boards for LiM/OG. I originally had OG, switched to LiM for a few months, and then back to OG.

OG is much better, IMO. It has more detail - LIM is a bit dark in comparison.

 

[George Hincapie]

I have both sets of boards for LiM/OG. I originally had OG, switched to LiM for a few months, and then back to OG.

OG is much better, IMO. It has more detail - LIM is a bit dark in comparison.

Thanks for your thoughts - very useful.

 

[jlemaster1957]

I have both sets of boards for LiM/OG. I originally had OG, switched to LiM for a few months, and then back to OG.

OG is much better, IMO. It has more detail - LIM is a bit dark in comparison.

How did you find the differences in terms of tonality - some have reported the bass on OG to bloom/bleed into the mids and the LIM to have better bass texture, and mids to have better imaging on LIM because of better blackground. Most everyone reports more ‘plankton’ on the OG and slightly more expansive soundstage. Do you hear anything like a ‘grayground’ in the OG? Pls can you elaborate on your impressions a bit more? btw I’m in the same place as George- trying to decide LIM vs OG. In this thread the recent posters tend to favor OG more.

 

[tesarpa]

How did you find the differences in terms of tonality - some have reported the bass on OG to bloom/bleed into the mids and the LIM to have better bass texture, and mids to have better imaging on LIM because of better blackground. Most everyone reports more ‘plankton’ on the OG and slightly more expansive soundstage. Do you hear anything like a ‘grayground’ in the OG? Pls can you elaborate on your impressions a bit more? btw I’m in the same place as George- trying to decide LIM vs OG. In this thread the recent posters tend to favor OG more.

Can't compare LIM, but I owned OG for some time and it has very clear and precise bass. Really nothing smeared. Replaced by Hugo TT2, which in comparison has much warmer, darker, denser tone.

 

[jlemaster1957]

OG order placed, after extensive dithering LIM vs OG. In the end, I was helped to the decision by all of you here and @ColtMrFire posts on SBAF (who is also a user on this forum). That user, having previously owned Yggy A2, reviewed (very eloquently) LIM vs Gungnir A2 on that Forum and found LIM better in terms of timbre/tonality. More recently @ColtMrFire returned from LIM to the Yggy A2 for the latter's harmonic richness and 'plankton'/textural nuance - though suggested to me when I responded on SBAF (thanks very much) that he still thought LIM is more even across the FR spectrum and probably plays better with a wider variety of gear.

The other thing that helped was my own thoughts re: the $$$. If I order the OG and later want to 'side grade' by purchasing a LIM card, the cost (whenever I do so) is $450. If I had ordered LIM, and decided within 15 days that LIM is not afterall my cup of tea, I could return the whole unit and upgrade to OG for $400 (plus shipping- Schiit will waive the restocking fee if one is upgrading to a more expensive unit). So going for OG first and later deciding I want to experience LIM is not that much more expensive in the future than starting the other way way around, given that I can afford the OG in the first place.

Chain will be Roon-> Sonore opticalRendu streamer —> USB Unison into Yggy OG--> 2023 Burson 3x GT --> Susvaras (all XLR Mogami interconnects) and I will post impressions after a week of burn in with Yggy streaming music the whole time. This will be my first Schiit product (!), I have been using Topping D90SE.

 

[jlemaster1957]

OG order placed, after extensive dithering LIM vs OG. In the end, I was helped to the decision by all of you here and @ColtMrFire posts on SBAF (who is also a user on this forum). That user, having previously owned Yggy A2, reviewed (very eloquently) LIM vs Gungnir A2 on that Forum and found LIM better in terms of timbre/tonality. More recently @ColtMrFire returned from LIM to the Yggy A2 for the latter's harmonic richness and 'plankton'/textural nuance - though suggested to me when I responded on SBAF (thanks very much) that he still thought LIM is more even across the FR spectrum and probably plays better with a wider variety of gear.

The other thing that helped was my own thought re: the $$$. If I order the OG and later want to 'side grade' by purchasing a LIM card, the cost (whenever I do so) is $450. If I had ordered LIM, and decided within 15 days that LIM is not afterall my cup of tea, I could return the whole unit and upgrade to OG for $400 (plus shipping- Schiit will waive the restocking fee if one is upgrading to a more expensive unit). …

And it has shipped from Schiit the same day!

 

[tameral]

Having owned the LIM for several months, and now owning the A2 / OG

I would break the decision down like this: if you have a solid state amp - LIM is probably good enough imo (although I'd still prefer A2 for my library). If you are using tubes imo - A2 all the way

The LIM does have a seductive tone, but I kept wanting for more treble, air, detail.

The reality is that the LIM is a much darker DAC. I've read that elsewhere and its really just that simple. It does have great tone that works with certain things. At this point as others have also said, I'd rather have a brighter source and shape the sound from there.

 

[Trickness]

Having owned the LIM for several months, and now owning the A2 / OG

I would break the decision down like this: if you have a solid state amp - LIM is probably good enough imo (although I'd still prefer A2 for my library). If you are using tubes imo - A2 all the way

The LIM does have a seductive tone, but I kept wanting for more treble, air, detail.

The reality is that the LIM is a much darker DAC. I've read that elsewhere and its really just that simple. It does have great tone that works with certain things. At this point as others have also said, I'd rather have a brighter source and shape the sound from there.

I’ve owned the OG A2 for several years, and I’m very curious whether stepping up to a big dollar DAC (DCS, Tambaqui) is lots BETTER, or just different. The Yggy is just so good, and not just for the price.

 

[jlemaster1957]

Having owned the LIM for several months, and now owning the A2 / OG
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The reality is that the LIM is a much darker DAC. I've read that elsewhere and its really just that simple. It does have great tone that works with certain things. At this point as others have also said, I'd rather have a brighter source and shape the sound from there.

This was my concern too- I wondered if LIM might pair well with a brighter amp (like Burson 3xP) or a brighter headphone like HD800S or Focal Clear. Or maybe if it would be possible to use EQ to add a treble shelf to brighten LIM’s FR. I think you’re right though- it’s probably better to be happy with your source ‘as is’ and then work on synergy with that. Do you have a tube amp you like and are using with the A2?