Schiit Magni 3+ and Magni Heresy - Impressions Thread

Feb 5, 2021 at 11:58 PM Post #301 of 399
I have not tried the modi 3+ dac so I cannot say. I am not sure if this helps, but the Chord Qutest DAC is the same as the Chord Hugo without the headphone amplifier component. I have used iFi Nano, Micro, Black label, and Audioquest dragonfly Cobalt and Red, and I think that the limitation in the output for the Heresy could be the DAC depending on how resolving it is. From all the reviews the Qutest pulls out a lot of data and is detailed which makes it a great partner for the Heresy with the Arya headphone pairing. It says a lot of the Heresy that it can manage the data with aplomb and sound fantastic with the Aryas. I actually have not heard these headphones sound nearly as good with multiple other headphone amplifiers: iFi Black Label headphone out, iFi Ican plus, Magni 3, Magni 3+ and iFi Ican Pro. To sum it up, the Heresy is able to handle a lot of data / input from a very resolving DAC really well and the output is superb with my setup so should do well with the Modi 3+ and be able to get the most out of the DAC.

Somewhat of a spoiler alert: I was reading a more recent review about Hifiman Arya and it can be positively affected per the reviewer by tweaks (cables, etc..) I think the cables that I have make a difference with the sound chain and what is heard.
people kept telling me that the heresy was not an upgrade to the liquid spark, but when i got it i was blown away at least with planars. it just added so much to the music. and then i got the modi 3+ and it added that extra crisp air that i was missing with my more entry level fiio DAC. really a great combo. i have the modius for my speaker amp and that is very impressive for 200$ schiit is my current favorite audio company for people on a budget.
 
Feb 6, 2021 at 4:54 AM Post #302 of 399
Imagine what Schiit could sell when they finally get their supply chain to europe running properly.

Me and most likely many orders looked a Schiit stack to buy. Realized it's about impossible to obtain outside America. Calculated the shipping costs, import taxes and customs fees to order/import it from America and decided it's not worth that much extra money and buy a SMSL stack instead.
 
Feb 6, 2021 at 5:45 AM Post #303 of 399
Imagine what Schiit could sell when they finally get their supply chain to europe running properly.

Me and most likely many orders looked a Schiit stack to buy. Realized it's about impossible to obtain outside America. Calculated the shipping costs, import taxes and customs fees to order/import it from America and decided it's not worth that much extra money and buy a SMSL stack instead.
It is a small company and it is sad that your continent has sold its economic soul to China. There is no reason why the import taxes are so high from America but not from China. It's basically the same distance. I will never buy another Chinese audio product again. They're the most digital sounding boring equipment I've heard. Not to mention basically non-existent customer service and after warranty support. I'm sure there are plenty of Good products made in Europe there is no need to support China other than certain disposable items or if someone is in poverty and has no choice
 
Feb 6, 2021 at 6:24 AM Post #304 of 399
There is no reason why the import taxes are so high from America but not from China.
It's easy actually. Companies like SMSL (and others) have distribution chains and actual stock inside europe. So once someone decides to buy a SMSL unit the unit will be shipped from within the European Union, which means lower or free shipping costs and no additional import taxes or customs fees.
For those reasons Schiit Europe is created. But unlike their competitors Schiit never got it properly off the ground for years now. Schiit is a small company but if they would have invested in getting a proper foot hold in Europe they would have been much bigger now.

Yes products from SMSL, Topping and the like are sounding "digital" because the units are designed and manufactured with only one thing in mind; the race for the best measuring unit. The actual sound comes after that. It's sad but that is what the audiophile market demands these days and so they to their best to deliver on that part.
 
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Feb 6, 2021 at 6:42 AM Post #305 of 399
It's easy actually. Companies like SMSL (and others) have distribution chains and actual stock inside europe. So once someone decides to buy a SMSL unit the unit will be shipped from within the European Union, which means lower or free shipping costs and no additional import taxes or customs fees.
For those reasons Schiit Europe is created. But unlike their competitors Schiit never got it properly off the ground for years now. Schiit is a small company but if they would have invested in getting a proper foot hold in Europe they would have been much bigger now.

Yes products from SMSL, Topping and the like are sounding "digital" because the units are designed and manufactured with only one goal in mind; measure as good as possible. The actual sound comes after that. It's sad but that is what the audiophile market demands these days and so they to their best to deliver on that part.
They do deliver a good value. I have heard most of their products. Schiit from my knowledge has gotten better about restocking their EU store. But that is just a few stories. I don't think it's a fair comparison considering topping SMSL and aune are basically a giant corporation. At least their distributors are. Funny then the new line of schiit products like the magnious then I used for my balanced speaker amp. Measure better than the Chinese competitors. Maybe not the top of the line but noticeably better than something like the D10S which would be insane 2 years ago.
 
Feb 6, 2021 at 8:30 AM Post #306 of 399
Also Schiit has one hole in its offering: DAC+Headphone amps in one unit with full digital inputs at an entry level price (200-400€). In my case, this is the reason why I didn’t consider it when purchasing audio equipment.
 
Feb 17, 2021 at 8:50 PM Post #308 of 399
i have the Magni 2, would you guys say the Magni 3+ is less bright sounding? My Grados can get a little fatiguing out of the Magni 2
probably however it is very neutral despite being a discrete design. so if you believe amps can "color" the sound go for it. you have a better chance of that with the asgard 3 however i would suggest lyr 3 for grados.
 
Feb 18, 2021 at 1:50 PM Post #309 of 399
Hello. I bought a brand new Schiit Stack (Modi 3+, Magni 3+ and Vali 2+) and I just received it, but, so far, I noticed some small “problems”:

1) I noticed that there were some small “scratches” in all of them and always in the same place (screw hole). I contacted Schiit and they answered that: “Those are common marks. Since they are the result of the anodizing process they will all have that mark”.
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2) I noticed on it when I went to adjust the volume knob it did not feel smooth when turning it, it felt scratchy when turning it. After some minutes, I realized that the knob was pressed against the chassis of the amp, so I took the knob off and then place the knob back with a little space between the knob and the chassis.

My question is: Is this really normal with Schiit equipment or I've got bad ones?
*as you may have noticed by my English (hahaha), I am not from the USA, so unfortunately it would be too expensive for me to send them back to replace them.

Thanks.
 
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Feb 18, 2021 at 6:44 PM Post #310 of 399
Hello. I bought a brand new Schiit Stack (Modi 3+, Magni 3+ and Vali 2+) and I just received it, but, so far, I noticed some small “problems”:

1) I noticed that there were some small “scratches” in all of them and always in the same place (screw hole). I contacted Schiit and they answered that: “Those are common marks. Since they are the result of the anodizing process they will all have that mark”.
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2) I noticed on it when I went to adjust the volume knob it did not feel smooth when turning it, it felt scratchy when turning it. After some minutes, I realized that the knob was pressed against the chassis of the amp, so I took the knob off and then place the knob back with a little space between the knob and the chassis. Apparently, the problem has been solved.

My question is: Is this really normal with Schiit equipment or I've got bad ones?
*as you may have noticed by my English (hahaha), I am not from the USA, so unfortunately it would be too expensive for me to send them back to replace them.

Thanks.
1) I checked my Schiit Modis and Schiit Magnis and only ONE out of the FIVE of them have that dent marks in the screw holes. I never noticed them until you pointed it out. Not really noticeable unless you are looking for it.
2) The volume knobs on mine came like that as well where they rub against the chassis. So, like you I just pulled a little and it went away. Pot scratchiness is not rub, but the sound that is produced electronically that causes a scratchy sound through your headphone drivers. That sound is always there when you move the pots in these cheap amps. However, it should not bother you once you have the volume set to where you want it.
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Feb 24, 2021 at 11:39 AM Post #311 of 399
I have a question for fellow Magni Heresy orders. I'm not able to get anything outputting the RCA outputs. I have my Topping E30 >RCA> Magni Heresy input. Magni Heresy outpout> RCA > Powered Monitors. I have tried other things like another amp, but I get nothing. This Heresy has been sent back before to Schiit for repairs due to blowing out a couple of months ago. I never used the RCA's before since I didn't have powered monitors. Is there something I am missing for getting it to work? Thanks.
 
Feb 24, 2021 at 12:38 PM Post #312 of 399
I have a question for fellow Magni Heresy orders. I'm not able to get anything outputting the RCA outputs. I have my Topping E30 >RCA> Magni Heresy input. Magni Heresy outpout> RCA > Powered Monitors. I have tried other things like another amp, but I get nothing. This Heresy has been sent back before to Schiit for repairs due to blowing out a couple of months ago. I never used the RCA's before since I didn't have powered monitors. Is there something I am missing for getting it to work? Thanks.
You don't have headphones plugged into the 1/4" jack when trying to play sound out of the powered monitors, right?
 
Mar 5, 2021 at 1:45 AM Post #313 of 399
New to the scene - I have two amps I want to A/B test by playing music, and simply manually switching the headphones plugs in between them.

Could I just go source->Modi DAC->Magni (input), then connect Magni Output to the input of the other amp I want to test, while just having the Magni power switch turned off? Would that work, kind of like pass-thru?
Can I accomplish this with no extra equipment, or do I need a switcher? Because fiddling with switching RCA cables from the DAC between the two amps is annoying.

Also, the manual of my other amp that arrived (Liquid Spark) mentions to never unplug headphones or cables when the amp is turned on as it could cause damage to things.

Is this true, or are they just covering their butts?

Is it safe to plug and unplug RCA cables and headphones from/to powered on amps? Or do you really want to power them off and on and waiting on muting relay, even for switching headphone plugs? That would make quick A/B testing impossible since by the time you've done all that, the sound signature faded from memory!
 
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Mar 5, 2021 at 1:50 AM Post #314 of 399
New to the scene - I have two amps I want to A/B test by playing music, and simply manually switching the headphones plugs in between them.

Could I just go source->Modi DAC->Magni (input), then connect Magni Output to the input of the other amp I want to test, while just having the Magni power switch turned off? Would that work, kind of like pass-thru?
Can I accomplish this with no extra equipment, or do I need a switcher?
You need a splitter. Modi output RCA split to both input RCA on each Magni amp.
Here is one on Amazon but it costs too much. https://amzn.to/3bmTX4J Find one like it, but cheap.
 
Mar 5, 2021 at 1:54 AM Post #315 of 399

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