Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up

[ArmchairPhilosopher]

Current supply chain constraints may or may not have played into it,

Nope.

but we will most likely never know.

Well, now you know.

Y'all are massively overthinking this. We're doing Singular not because it's better, not because of supply chain stuff, not because of cost.

We're doing Singular because…
- …it's not been done before
- …it's fun to try new things
- …we can

 

[bagwell359]

TIDAL ended support for MQA 7/24/24.

 

[Charai]

These are great, but when will y'all implement Bluetooth lossless codecs? That'd cover our dac/amp devices to also be used as a wireless endpoint for, for example, speakers as you're some distance away to change settings and such

 

[ThorCorps]

There are still quite a few of us the will need analog inputs.

I'm not sure I'd put it past Martin to add a USB output to the next round of phono preamps. It's not like he's busy doing anything else.

 

[MindBreak]

Nope.


Well, now you know.

Y'all are massively overthinking this. We're doing Singular not because it's better, not because of supply chain stuff, not because of cost.

We're doing Singular because…
- …it's not been done before
- …it's fun to try new things
- …we can

My apologies, I have been up since 1am and my Mind wanders (or Breaks) at times.

I reiterate the other part of my post, Fun times ahead.

 

[AndreYew]

Classic DSD is a 1 bit, 64x44.1khz = 2.8224 MHz modulator. Singular is a 7-bit, 6MHz modulator, so even if you use NOS mode, you'd have to resample. Since you're thinking of using a DAC for DSD, you probably are using a streamer or computer of some sort, and you're probably better off using a really high quality resampler on the PC to convert your DSD to PCM (maybe even in realtime) to use with Byggy.

I suppose Schiit could develop their own DSD resampler in place of the megasupercomboburrito filter, but that seems like a lot of effort for not a big market.

The ironic thing of course is that DSD was designed to be easily decimated to whatever playback rate you wanted (hence the 64x CD rate), so it's always funny to me when DSD purists talk about wanting to preserve the 1-bit nature of the signal.

 

[docBliny]

Not advocating for or against, but Qobuz did add DSD downloads some time back: https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/quality/DSD-1-bit/download-streaming-albums which I found interesting at the time surprising.

 

[34th Street]

Y'all are massively overthinking this. We're doing Singular not because it's better, not because of supply chain stuff, not because of cost.

We're doing Singular because…
- …it's not been done before
- …it's fun to try new things
- …we can

I absolutely love those motivations and please never change!

For many years, I've been bought in to the unique value and benefits of Multibit + the filter. To wit, I just replaced my Gumby with the G2 and was totally blown away by the improvement. I was expecting something subtle, but it's not. I even had a non-audiophile friend ask "have you done something to your speakers?" after spending time at my place listening to music - without me telling them I'd just changed the DAC! So for people like me, the move to Singular might feel a little like Dylan goes electric or Porsche goes water cooled.

So I wouldn't say I'm overthinking it as much as I'm just in need of Schiit's explanation of why Singular is an improvement on the Multibit architecture vs just different and fun to do. I get the "flavor" thing, but at the top of the price ladder I'd also like to know that I'd be getting something Schiit also believes is also "better" in terms of sound quality - which I'm sure you do. But until that chapter from Jason comes out, the "overthinking" will probably continue!

 

[AndreYew]

There aren't any 1-bit delta-sigma DACs anymore, so any modern DS DAC will require some sort of resampling of DSD. The purest way of listening to DSD is with a resistor, as the OG Loki did.

 

[razoredge]

Schiits going modular. Looks like we will be able to pick between multi form and singular for the converter, with mesh being standard for cheap DACs and a dedicated DSP on the expensive ones. All configurable at time of purchase.

 

[theeclone]

There aren't any 1-bit delta-sigma DACs anymore, so any modern DS DAC will require some sort of resampling of DSD. The purest way of listening to DSD is with a resistor, as the OG Loki did.

There are current DACs that are truly 1 bit, but the ones I know about upsample anything below DSD128. If you have DSD128 content, then in some cases you can listen back with no resampling.

 

[MindBreak]

Another thought in my wandering mind is a Valhalla 3/Mimir/Gjallarhorn stack with a nearfield speaker setup.

One wonders how that would sound if implemented.

 

[Syan25]

All this tech-talk is beyond me. How about what does it sound like? Does it sound good? Does it bring the music to life? Am I enjoying the music more?

That's all that matters (to me at least.)

I'm reaching a point where in a year I'll be ending my purchases of gear. I mean the occasional purchase or upgrade may be necessary. But I'll be done mostly.

Then, it will be time to create mostly.

Forgive my old man ramblings, but I often think just old gear can sound just as great as the new. Often simple can sound better than complex.

IMO - the standard should be how good it sounds. How natural the timbre is. How accurate the attack and decay are. How dynamic the presentation is. Anyway....I've said my Schiit...

 

[wout31]

All this tech-talk is beyond me. How about what does it sound like? Does it sound good? Does it bring the music to life? Am I enjoying the music more?

That's all that matters (to me at least.)

I'm reaching a point where in a year I'll be ending my purchases of gear. I mean the occasional purchase or upgrade may be necessary. But I'll be done mostly.

Then, it will be time to create mostly.

Forgive my old man ramblings, but I often think just old gear can sound just as great as the new. Often simple can sound better than complex.

IMO - the standard should be how good it sounds. How natural the timbre is. How accurate the attack and decay are. How dynamic the presentation is. Anyway....I've said my Schiit...

Ah, you need electrostatics. The closest approach to the original sound.

 

[Old Norse]

All this tech-talk is beyond me. How about what does it sound like? Does it sound good? Does it bring the music to life? Am I enjoying the music more?

That's all that matters (to me at least.)

I'm reaching a point where in a year I'll be ending my purchases of gear. I mean the occasional purchase or upgrade may be necessary. But I'll be done mostly.

Then, it will be time to create mostly.

Forgive my old man ramblings, but I often think just old gear can sound just as great as the new. Often simple can sound better than complex.

IMO - the standard should be how good it sounds. How natural the timbre is. How accurate the attack and decay are. How dynamic the presentation is. Anyway....I've said my Schiit...

I agree. At the end of the day, the sound is all that matters.