Following on ... the last (and only) time I had a tube go, the channel went completely silent. This time, it's still audible.
Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
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strider1007
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I would switch the tubes, left to right and right to left. If it is still the left channel that is weaker it is probably not the tube.
If the problem moves to the other channel, I guess the tube could be the cause..
If the problem moves to the other channel, I guess the tube could be the cause..
JohnnyCanuck
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Probably. Swap the left and right channel tubes to see if the problem follows. If it does, you can assume that it's the tube. (I'm assuming that there is at least one physical tube per channel.)
JC
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re: mj3, urd, or Yggy GS?
a) urd doesn’t serve for me because I want my transport to output DVD (for opera, ballet), though I understand well why Schiit doesn’t want to go there.
b) for Yggy I want MIB or maybe LIM (though I think gumby is close to LIM).
The Yggy A2 (or og , updated with unison) is great, but one really needs to use it balanced out in my experience. One can solve that with Lokius, but that adds a few $. And I want the + case.
My experience with MIB so far (more later) is that se out is fine. Hence the Yggy GS versions would not be for me.
c) MJ3 is fantastic. @Kristofa and others, you’ll be amazed at what it brings. More detail, richer timbre, etc. (Well, as always, if you like what you have don’t get caught up in nervousa, or you will have a closet full of schiit.)
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Noah
a) urd doesn’t serve for me because I want my transport to output DVD (for opera, ballet), though I understand well why Schiit doesn’t want to go there.
b) for Yggy I want MIB or maybe LIM (though I think gumby is close to LIM).
The Yggy A2 (or og , updated with unison) is great, but one really needs to use it balanced out in my experience. One can solve that with Lokius, but that adds a few $. And I want the + case.
My experience with MIB so far (more later) is that se out is fine. Hence the Yggy GS versions would not be for me.
c) MJ3 is fantastic. @Kristofa and others, you’ll be amazed at what it brings. More detail, richer timbre, etc. (Well, as always, if you like what you have don’t get caught up in nervousa, or you will have a closet full of schiit.)
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Noah
Paladin79
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I think I built seven or eight but lost count lol. I never did mount one inside a scotch bottle, one day perhaps.
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re Yggy MIB, Vali 2, Sennheisser HD 650...this is going to be a weird combination.
About MIB: patience. Repeat: patience! From Yggy A2 I know it takes a while--as in 2 weeks-- for this to burn in. So when MIB arrives, I stuff it in a corner, get a hp amp and headphones out of the closet, hook it up to a computer running a burn-in cycle of music from Gregorian chant to Bartok and Stravinsky, and let it run 24/7. Occasionally I stop by, put on the headphones, a listen a bit. The first week I promptly take them off--meh. Not entirely fair to MIB, because if it were my favorite hp amp and headphones, they would not be in the closet. Ten days in, “Ah, this is becoming something I want to listen to.” The MIB is going to be good!
(The hp amp I have been using has balanced input, so I have been using the balanced output of MIB)
While the burn-in has progressed, I have been listening a fair amount to the humble vali 2 and mumby 2. So “what the heck” let’s plug the vali 2 into the se output of the MIB.
And it sounds good! This is to listen to! (It will be a few more days before I put it in the chain of my ‘big rig’. By then I’ll be off to my remote location, so I won’t have a real report on MIB until sometime in January.)
nb re MIB: The se outputs of the MIB are good, I suspect the equal of balanced out.
Too early to be sure, but this is a major simplification in set-up. Don’t have to have Lokius in the chain to get full advantage.
nb re vali 2: (actually vali 2+, but for both). One of the great things about Vali 2 is that it gives you a chance to hear what a difference different tubes make. If you get a vali 2 you owe it to yourself to spend an extra $50-60 and get a
socket saver/extender,
perhaps an adapter, eg, 6SN7 to 6922
at least one other tube, e.g. a tung sol 6SN7, or 6CG7 ( no adapter needed)
other recommendations have been posted
You need not go down the rabbit hole of buying a dozen heirloom NOS tubes, like @bcowen. But if you do, he can give you great advice. I have the tong sol 6SN7, and an rca 6CG7 of some vintage.(That is NOS,]@Bowen likely knows more about it than I do.) To my ears, these tubes transform the vali 2 from something nice to something very special.
Headphones? I don’t go into the $2k+ options, but I do have a couple of $1.6k options. Then comes an array of $1k or less down to budget. (Koss porta-pro, anyone?) What I actually listen to most is
Senn HD 600/650. Those need a good hp-amp.
They also benefit from e.g. Dekoni fenestrated sheepskin ear pads. (Tyl H first put me on to those, years back.) As with the Vali 2, to my ears this transforms the Senn 6yys into something special. As with the vali 2 tubes, there have been other recommendations on Senn ear pads--it’s worth exploring.
Enuf, hope this helps.
My nickel, of course YMMV
Noah
About MIB: patience. Repeat: patience! From Yggy A2 I know it takes a while--as in 2 weeks-- for this to burn in. So when MIB arrives, I stuff it in a corner, get a hp amp and headphones out of the closet, hook it up to a computer running a burn-in cycle of music from Gregorian chant to Bartok and Stravinsky, and let it run 24/7. Occasionally I stop by, put on the headphones, a listen a bit. The first week I promptly take them off--meh. Not entirely fair to MIB, because if it were my favorite hp amp and headphones, they would not be in the closet. Ten days in, “Ah, this is becoming something I want to listen to.” The MIB is going to be good!
(The hp amp I have been using has balanced input, so I have been using the balanced output of MIB)
While the burn-in has progressed, I have been listening a fair amount to the humble vali 2 and mumby 2. So “what the heck” let’s plug the vali 2 into the se output of the MIB.
And it sounds good! This is to listen to! (It will be a few more days before I put it in the chain of my ‘big rig’. By then I’ll be off to my remote location, so I won’t have a real report on MIB until sometime in January.)
nb re MIB: The se outputs of the MIB are good, I suspect the equal of balanced out.
Too early to be sure, but this is a major simplification in set-up. Don’t have to have Lokius in the chain to get full advantage.
nb re vali 2: (actually vali 2+, but for both). One of the great things about Vali 2 is that it gives you a chance to hear what a difference different tubes make. If you get a vali 2 you owe it to yourself to spend an extra $50-60 and get a
socket saver/extender,
perhaps an adapter, eg, 6SN7 to 6922
at least one other tube, e.g. a tung sol 6SN7, or 6CG7 ( no adapter needed)
other recommendations have been posted
You need not go down the rabbit hole of buying a dozen heirloom NOS tubes, like @bcowen. But if you do, he can give you great advice. I have the tong sol 6SN7, and an rca 6CG7 of some vintage.(That is NOS,]@Bowen likely knows more about it than I do.) To my ears, these tubes transform the vali 2 from something nice to something very special.
Headphones? I don’t go into the $2k+ options, but I do have a couple of $1.6k options. Then comes an array of $1k or less down to budget. (Koss porta-pro, anyone?) What I actually listen to most is
Senn HD 600/650. Those need a good hp-amp.
They also benefit from e.g. Dekoni fenestrated sheepskin ear pads. (Tyl H first put me on to those, years back.) As with the Vali 2, to my ears this transforms the Senn 6yys into something special. As with the vali 2 tubes, there have been other recommendations on Senn ear pads--it’s worth exploring.
Enuf, hope this helps.
My nickel, of course YMMV
Noah
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JamminVMI
Headphoneus Supremus
I’m no expert, but that’d be the first place I’d look…
Pietro Cozzi Tinin
Headphoneus Supremus
Corpus house is 11 feet. Eeeek.
On the other hand, this is a 5 minute walk away:
I know I will be crucified for this. It's a beautiful picture but ...
You should straighten it to make it 100% satisfying.
sam6550a
Headphoneus Supremus
I can help empty the bottle, if desired.I think I built seven or eight but lost count lol. I never did mount one inside a scotch bottle, one day perhaps.
Paladin79
Previously MOT: Cables For Less
I will keep you posted.
Ableza
Headphoneus Supremus
Swap left and right tubes and see if the problem follows the tube.
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Moondog55
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Just a guess, when the channel went silent, was it a new/reissue tube? And now, is it NOS tubes?
Until today I believed that only architects looked at horizontal horizons. But it seems that doctors do too!
The first tubes were Siemens EC88 and the current ones are GE 5670 ... both pairs NOS. I've had the GE for a fair amount of time.
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