Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
Apr 24, 2023 at 10:17 PM Post #117,271 of 150,236
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3) The wife doesn't know that having the TV above the fireplace is verboten, and I'm not gonna tell her. She actually thought it belonged there.
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To drive the point home, I bought a much moah betah TV, put in the "guest" room on a TV stand and let my philosopher queen draw her own conclusions.

She prefers to watch Picard there :) The fireplace TV is only for TV and for when we have to play with our pup to keep him out of trouble.
 
Apr 24, 2023 at 10:20 PM Post #117,272 of 150,236
What do you do if you need to install a tv, and you have a fireplace on one wall & a nice two channel setup on the other wall. The 3rd side is all windows and doors, the 4th side is open and expands into the kitchen/dining area.

Does the tv go above the fireplace or between your speakers?

For the sake of picking your poison no other location works, for the tv to be installed.
 
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Apr 24, 2023 at 10:27 PM Post #117,273 of 150,236
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Does the tv go above the fireplace or between your speakers?
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Me, I'd get one of those rollable TVs and put it in between the speakers. My neck doesn't work well enough to put it over the fireplace.
 
Apr 24, 2023 at 11:01 PM Post #117,274 of 150,236
Sometimes there's not a better choice. Guess where mine is? Yup, above the fireplace. On one side of the fireplace is a hallway entry, and on the other side is a built-in cabinet/bookshelf. Would look even stupid-er parked in one of those areas. One adjacent wall is all windows, and the other has stairs with a center landing going to the 2nd floor. No go there. And the other end of the room opposite the fireplace? No wall there as it's fully open into the kitchen and breakfast nook. So just nowhere else to go with it. However:

1) I don't watch much TV, so my neck will be fine. The wife? She spends so much time looking down at her phone that equal time looking up at the TV may balance out the spinal trauma.
2) The audio room could be made into a much more TV friendly room. Not gonna happen. This should not require further explanation. :laughing:
3) The wife doesn't know that having the TV above the fireplace is verboten, and I'm not gonna tell her. She actually thought it belonged there.
4) When all else fails, rationalize.
FTFY…[Reg. TM; © bcowen: 2021.] 😤
 
Apr 24, 2023 at 11:32 PM Post #117,275 of 150,236
What do you do if you need to install a tv, and you have a fireplace on one wall & a nice two channel setup on the other wall. The 3rd side is all windows and doors, the 4th side is open and expands into the kitchen/dining area.

Does the tv go above the fireplace or between your speakers?

For the sake of picking your poison no other location works, for the tv to be installed.

Well, perhaps you need to purchase a SYN and a third speaker if you're gonna have to commit a sin anyway.
 
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Apr 24, 2023 at 11:42 PM Post #117,276 of 150,236
Good design suggests that a room have one focal point. Usually a fireplace is the one. Putting the TV over the fireplace kind of diminishes the centrality of both.

I do have a room like that, sadly, because the property is out of my control. I watch like a Roman at dinner, reclined. Invariably, my shoulder aches later....
My rooms focal point “was” the fireplace. Unfortunately it was dated with built in book shelves and had 70‘s vibe of paneling and face brick. The book selves severely limited the tv size and made the TV off center.

No other options for the room. The fireplace is now gone and it‘s now a proper 2 channel setup. Freya S and Vidar driving a pair of Definitive Technology BP-10 bipolar speakers. The TV is now flanked by artwork and I don’t miss the multiple speakers and sub.

It’s quit liberating to go at a wall with a hammer and sawzall.
 
Apr 25, 2023 at 12:19 AM Post #117,277 of 150,236
Sometimes there's not a better choice. Guess where mine is? Yup, above the fireplace. On one side of the fireplace is a hallway entry, and on the other side is a built-in cabinet/bookshelf. Would look even stupid-er parked in one of those areas. One adjacent wall is all windows, ....
4) When all else fails, rationalize.
Surely the Cardinal of Cardboard, could create a corrugated décor window feature with a VESA mount for the big screen while hiding windows and 50,000 Fotons. 🤣 :thinking:
 
Apr 25, 2023 at 12:21 AM Post #117,278 of 150,236
Tonight's Syn-full song recommendation:

Rockit...... Herbie Hancock
 
Apr 25, 2023 at 12:22 AM Post #117,279 of 150,236
Sometimes there's not a better choice. Guess where mine is? Yup, above the fireplace. On one side of the fireplace is a hallway entry, and on the other side is a built-in cabinet/bookshelf. Would look even stupid-er parked in one of those areas. One adjacent wall is all windows, and the other has stairs with a center landing going to the 2nd floor. No go there. And the other end of the room opposite the fireplace? No wall there as it's fully open into the kitchen and breakfast nook. So just nowhere else to go with it. However:

1) I don't watch much TV, so my neck will be fine. The wife? She spends so much time looking down at her phone that equal time looking up at the TV may balance out the spinal trauma.
2) The audio room could be made into a much more TV friendly room. Not gonna happen. This should not require further explanation. :laughing:
3) The wife doesn't know that having the TV above the fireplace is verboten, and I'm not gonna tell her. She actually thought it belonged there.
4) When all else fails, rationalize.

Meeting of WAF Anonymous:

Hi, my name is Plautus and I am a victim of WAF...

"Hi, Plautus"

When we bought our new house, WAF dictated the TV is above the fireplace...

"Yup"

It's not their fault nor our fault, just the first person that hung it there...
 
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Apr 25, 2023 at 1:38 AM Post #117,280 of 150,236
Does the tv go above the fireplace or between your speakers?
No good answer for that unless you get a really big flat screen and put it in front of the fireplace. Then, what fireplace? Run the TV audio into your main audio system and you don't need a soundbar. Of course the TV will set you back a couple of grand.
I'll shut up now.
 
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Apr 25, 2023 at 1:39 AM Post #117,281 of 150,236
Plautus, “We’ve always done it this way…” 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔🤷🏻‍♂️☑️
 
Apr 25, 2023 at 2:27 AM Post #117,282 of 150,236
95% of humans do this:

Smart TV --> Human (yes with built-in sound!)

2-3% of humans do this:

Smart TV --> Soundbar --> Human

1-2% of humans do this:

Sources --> AVR --> Smart TV and Speakers --> Human

0.01% of humans do this:

Sources --> AV Preamp with custom room correction --> Stack of billion-watt amplifiers --> Projector in black-painted room --> 32.4 ATOMS certified by grand master AV specialist to cinema criteria --> Humans sipping Bordeaux from varietal-specific Reidel glasses
To paraphrase:
• 95% are satisfied with zero sound hardware
• 2-3% are happy with a 1-box solution (soundbar)
• 1-2% invest in a multi-box solution (AVR, speakers)
• 0.1% go bonkers
Syn is intended to expand out from the 95%, like this:

Smart TV --> Syn --> Amps/Speakers --> Human
or
Source --> HDMI De-embedder --> Syn --> Amps/Speakers --> Human
How do you go for the 95%? I mean, a person who’s satisfied with zero sound hardware would be tough to convince - perhaps they care only for simplicity and sound quality doesn’t bother them.

Surely you’d be going for the 1-2%?

Not criticizing - just hoping to understand Schiit’s POV on this.
 
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Apr 25, 2023 at 3:02 AM Post #117,283 of 150,236
What do you do if you need to install a tv, and you have a fireplace on one wall & a nice two channel setup on the other wall. The 3rd side is all windows and doors, the 4th side is open and expands into the kitchen/dining area.

Does the tv go above the fireplace or between your speakers?

For the sake of picking your poison no other location works, for the tv to be installed.
IMO best to have free space between the speakers;
second-best case, pull speakers forward (toward listener) of any in between items (e.g. TV, fireplace) by a foot or two.

some questions:
how big is the tv, and will its placement between the speakers force them to be too far apart at the optimal listening distance?

do you actually use the fireplace? if not, then could the speakers be relocated to the surrounding sides, and far enough from the corners / side walls?
 
Apr 25, 2023 at 5:40 AM Post #117,284 of 150,236

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