[Paladin79]

Top 3 yggy+OG, Cary, Prima Luna with stock tubes. Yggy finishes third if someone like bcowen provides the tubes.

Lol, three or four of us will provide tubes. I want to say stock tubes in PrimaLuna are PSVane. I rarely use solid silver wire inside my amp builds but you should check out some of the parts used in the HoloAudio DAC, there are a few levels and this one is the level 3 I believe.

 

[MarkF786]

Sorry for the potentially stupid question, but is there much of a market for older model Schiit gear? Nowadays, I often find selling things more a hassle then it's worth, but I hate to see good gear go to waste. I'm planning on upgrading from my Jot OG to a Jot 2 which pushes me over the edge for gear I need to get rid of:

Jotunheim OG w/balanced DAC
Bifrost MB w/ Gen 5 USB
Valhalla 2
Lyr 3 (maybe... trying to decide if to keep it or upgrade to the Lyr 3+)

 

[Paladin79]

Sorry for the potentially stupid question, but is there much of a market for older model Schiit gear? Nowadays, I often find selling things more a hassle then it's worth, but I hate to see good gear go to waste. I'm planning on upgrading from my Jot OG to a Jot 2 which pushes me over the edge for gear I need to get rid of:

Jotunheim OG w/balanced DAC
Bifrost MB w/ Gen 5 USB
Valhalla 2
Lyr 3 (maybe... trying to decide if to keep it or upgrade to the Lyr 3+)

Schiit gear certainly holds its value from what I have seen. Maybe a few folks from this thread will PM you.

 

[MarkF786]

On another note, maybe I should reconsider the Jot 2. If I'm downsizing to two devices (already have the Bifrost 2/64), what's the better option Jot 2 or Lyr+? I like the balanced option of the Jot, but I'd be lying if I claimed I could hear a difference - but then all those expensive balanced cables I bought go to waste.

Schiit's full size components don't interest me, sadly, just because of the added space. I use my Schiit gear in my den, at my desk or nearby recliner. In the bedroom, I more listening to my stereo (Rotel gear with KEF R3s).

Balanced aside, which one sounds better? I have a ton of phones' though I'd say the HD580/600/650/800S see the most action, but I have Uptopia 2022 incoming.

 

[MarkF786]

On another note, maybe I should reconsider the Jot 2. If I'm downsizing to two devices (already have the Bifrost 2/64), what's the better option Jot 2 or Lyr+? I like the balanced option of the Jot, but I'd be lying if I claimed I could hear a difference - but then all those expensive balanced cables I bought go to waste.

Schiit's full size components don't interest me, sadly, just because of the added space. I use my Schiit gear in my den, at my desk or nearby recliner. In the bedroom, I more listening to my stereo (Rotel gear with KEF R3s).

Balanced aside, which one sounds better? I have a ton of phones' though I'd say the HD580/600/650/800S see the most action, but I have Uptopia 2022 incoming.

Nevermind. I'm going to do what any rational person would do: buy both. The added benefit is I can also eliminate my Saga S.

Here's what the new stack will look like (top to bottom):

Lyr+ (with SE inputs from the two DACs for easy comparison)
Jot 2 (with the Bifrost 2/64 directly connected with balanced cables, and the Lyr+ preamp out connected to SE input)
Modius E - for a DAC that measures well according to ASR's madness
Bifrost 2/64 - for the multibit goodness

 

[Paladin79]

Nevermind. I'm going to do what any rational person would do: buy both. The added benefit is I can also eliminate my Saga S.

Here's what the new stack will look like (top to bottom):

Lyr+ (with SE inputs from the two DACs for easy comparison)
Jot 2 (with the Bifrost 2/64 directly connected with balanced cables, and the Lyr+ preamp out connected to SE input)
Modius E - for a DAC that measures well according to ASR's madness
Bifrost 2/64 - for the multibit goodness

Enjoy the Utopias! Amazing headphones.

 

[Runrunsmithfly]

Nevermind. I'm going to do what any rational person would do: buy both. The added benefit is I can also eliminate my Saga S.

Here's what the new stack will look like (top to bottom):

Lyr+ (with SE inputs from the two DACs for easy comparison)
Jot 2 (with the Bifrost 2/64 directly connected with balanced cables, and the Lyr+ preamp out connected to SE input)
Modius E - for a DAC that measures well according to ASR's madness
Bifrost 2/64 - for the multibit goodness

I'm curious about the Modius E. I had a Modi 3E that I sold after a few weeks. The Modius has the ES9028 though compared to the Modi's ES9018.

 

[rfernand]

Nevermind. I'm going to do what any rational person would do: buy both. The added benefit is I can also eliminate my Saga S.

Here's what the new stack will look like (top to bottom):

Lyr+ (with SE inputs from the two DACs for easy comparison)
Jot 2 (with the Bifrost 2/64 directly connected with balanced cables, and the Lyr+ preamp out connected to SE input)
Modius E - for a DAC that measures well according to ASR's madness
Bifrost 2/64 - for the multibit goodness

Fwiw, Jot2 / Bifrost2 balanced synergy is hard to beat. You’ll be happy. Jot OG was excellent but the new one has more blackground and a super useful on/off for the preamp out. If you don’t care about these two things stay with OG and save $400.

HD580/600/650/800S see the most action, but I have Uptopia 2022 incoming.

I really like my Utopia ‘22 with tubes. Report on Lyr+!

 

[corndog71]

Night time shots of Aegir

Here’s what my Piety projects onto my ceiling in the dark.

 

[Turcoda]

From a recommendation on here, I got the Emotiva CMX-2 Precision Common Mode AC Line Filter With DC Offset Eliminator for trying to resolve a couple of issues with my Vidar powered system. It worked well (that is no reoccurrence of the problem since), and when the Tyrs were ordered I got a second one (the CMX-2 has only two outlets and the more outlet version is out of stock). They seem to do an excellent job and for me and may be worth a look.

Thanks. The humm actually stems from the Tyr that is indeed connected into a powerbar plugged into a CMX2 already
I doubt the powerbar is to blame? Like you said the stupid CMX2s only have 2 sockets, so i work with what I have : (

 

[maheeinfy]

Here’s what my Piety projects onto my ceiling in the dark.

Schiit should stick a bat symbol in there. That would be epic

 

[bcowen]

Big rig in my mind is my main system.



Today I am trying different tubes just to see if a more magical combination exists.

Musical selections include the Avett Bothers, Art Pepper, Willie Watson, Greg Brown, Tramples by Turtles, Van Morrison, and John Hyatt

Although I did not want to see it, I have a list of DAC's that should be in my upcoming comparison. That list could change slightly but I insisted on the two Yggdrasil, PrimaLuna, HoloAudio, and Aqua being there.

Yggdrasil + Less is More
Yggdrasil + OG
Benchmark DAC D3
Auralic Altair G1
Chord Hugo 2
Cary DAC 200 TS
Prima Luna EVO100 tube DAC
Aqua La Voce
Merason DAC 1
Doge 7 tube DAC
Lampizator Baltic 3
McIntosh MDA 200
HoloAudio May KTE
RME ADI-2
IFI Audio Pro iDSD

Now after such comparisons I have had folks say things like "I thought that would be the outcome". Anyone want to make any outcome predictions BEFORE the comparisons are done.

What? You've chopped off the turntable and can barely see any tubes. My eyes are burning.

This is a properly photographed big rig:

 

[Paladin79]

What? You've chopped off the turntable and can barely see any tubes. My eyes are burning.

This is a properly photographed big rig:

Lol I was trying to avoid showing any of my cable masterwork, otherwise you would hang your head in shame.

Here are a couple tubes so you will leave me alone!!

Also I have no storage yet for vinyl, I am working on birdseye maple with dovetail joints.

 

[JohnnyOps]

Hey @Jason Stoddard I have a question about Freya N (of which I am one happy new owner, ‘cause I have a whole bunch of 6922 tubes that I accumulated when I was tube-rolling my Mjolnir 2)…

You mention in the original release that (my italics added):

Freya Noval. This is our other top-of-the-line tube preamp. I say “other,” because it’s exactly the same as Freya+, with the exception of some operational point changes, and the addition of two small resistors to the gain-setting structure. That’s it. Everything else—differential buffer mode, passive mode, volume ladder, etc…all the same. The difference is that this one ships with 6N1P tubes, which we have a zillion of, so you can be assured of supply. The other difference is that you can use a whole lot of different tube combos in this product—6DJ8, 6922, 7308, 6BZ7, ECC88, 6CG7, heck, you can even use 6N6P in two of the slots, combined with two lower-heater-current tubes, because as long as you’re under 2.4A total, you’re fine. (And if all of this crazy heater-current talk makes you nuts, just stick with the 6N1Ps, or try a quad of 6CG7s, or try some premium 6922s as input tubes only.)

My question is… Would I want to have 6N6P’s in the output tube slots? I have a couple extras because I ordered a bunch of 6N6P’s from the Ukraine for “just in case” on my Folkvangr. But is there a reason why 6922’s in input + 6N6P’s would be preferable to 6922’s in input plus 6n1p’s or 6922’s? I get that the amp can take it… but is there a rational reason why I should try to use tubes to max out the heater current in the amp? I mean you know I’m gonna try anyways, but I want to know what I should expect…. Or what you or the folks there @ Schiit prefer?

Thanks!

(Of course I welcome anyone’s input on this key Freya N question - but I figure since Jason threw in the seemingly key word “heck”, he might have a strong POV on this one).

 

[earnmyturns]

Big rig in my mind is my main system.



Today I am trying different tubes just to see if a more magical combination exists.

Musical selections include the Avett Bothers, Art Pepper, Willie Watson, Greg Brown, Tramples by Turtles, Van Morrison, and John Hyatt

Although I did not want to see it, I have a list of DAC's that should be in my upcoming comparison. That list could change slightly but I insisted on the two Yggdrasil, PrimaLuna, HoloAudio, and Aqua being there.

Yggdrasil + Less is More
Yggdrasil + OG
Benchmark DAC D3
Auralic Altair G1
Chord Hugo 2
Cary DAC 200 TS
Prima Luna EVO100 tube DAC
Aqua La Voce
Merason DAC 1
Doge 7 tube DAC
Lampizator Baltic 3
McIntosh MDA 200
HoloAudio May KTE
RME ADI-2
IFI Audio Pro iDSD

Now after such comparisons I have had folks say things like "I thought that would be the outcome". Anyone want to make any outcome predictions BEFORE the comparisons are done.

(assuming Y+ OG == Y OG soundwise...) I own Hugo 2 and May KTE, I've owned Y OG. I'd rank Hugo 2 < May KTE NOS ~ Y OG < May KTE + external HQPlayer upsampling + DSD modulation. "~" means varies with the material, Y OG wins overall for Redbook, NOS May KTE wins on higher sample rates, May KTE with external processing wins all the time.