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Yeah and they wouldn't do a DAC/Amp at one point as well. So saying they aren't going to do something because they said they had no interest in the past is not really relevant.
Exactly that is partnership. A win win for both and usBelieve it or not, you can update software without a UI. Obviously we interpret Jason's words differently.
Late to this thread, but... One interesting thing about Roon's RAAT protocol is that it is designed to be dynamically upgradable without change to the basic protocol receiver software. IOW, it's designed to be burned into a ROM, and later protocol changes are just pushed remotely by the Roon Core. Normal streamers have a lot more software than just a RAAT receiver, and in particular they need to work with many different DACs. Incidentally, even USB audio is not as "standard" as people seem to believe, the spec is so complex than apparently different implementation fill in ambiguities in different ways. Indeed, one could argue that a USB audio receiver line the new Unison board Schiit is developing may more complex than a RAAT/Ethernet receiver (remember that TCP/IP/ARP/RARP/... were designed when network processors were very small and slow...). All of this to say that If Schiit wanted to build an Ethernet RAAT receiver, they probably could without getting into the software upgrade whirlpool. But should they? It's a market fit/development/support cost question. My guess is that the market for DACs with great USB receivers that work with any USB audio source, even noisy ones, is at least 10x, possibly 100x larger than for a Roon-ready Ethernet DAC. Almost everyone has a PC or laptop with USB, very few people have Roon or even solid Ethernet setups (just go read the Roon support board for sob stories about one home networking issue after another).Believe it or not, you can update software without a UI. Obviously we interpret Jason's words differently.
Late to this thread, but... One interesting thing about Roon's RAAT protocol is that ......
You guys can keep dreaming ......
I think you are at least 3 orders of magnitude off. The Ethernet audio and Roon markets are each already tiny markets. Their intersection would be extremely minuscule.My guess is that the market for DACs with great USB receivers that work with any USB audio source, even noisy ones, is at least 10x, possibly 100x larger than for a Roon-ready Ethernet DAC.
In the real world, as opposed to the weird world of us audionuts, the next step from USB is wireless. In fact, not even WiFi, just 5G and that's it. Schiit has to walk a careful path in satisfying the main audionut urges without getting swallowed by audionut insanity. As a card-carrying audionut, I want Schiit to be in business creating great gear for as long as my hearing holds, and that means avoiding ruinously expensive corner cases like Roon-ready Ethernet.Ha. I'm dreaming of a world where network bridges are a thing of the past.
I know patience is not the strongest trait in us audionuts, but for anyone who is considering new digital music arrangements, I'd recommend you enjoy what you have, or go on a long vacation to listen to live music like @bosiemoncrieff, and wait for what Schiit does on the Unison front. There's no intrinsic reason why a carefully-designed DAC USB audio receiver cannot compete with the ridiculous arrangements of digital-to-digital converters (DDCs), USB purifiers, exotic power supplies, and the like upstream of DACs that have been the obsession of digital audio nuts until now. It is possible, and it would be wonderful, if any USB audio source, even generic PCs and cheap Pi-based streamers would just work transparently with a Schiit multibit DAC. Then, the whole "why not add Ethernet to Schiit DACs" thread would be dead, given how easy it is to get a low-cost Ethernet>USB streamer.Just attach a known working Roon transport.
Sotm and Sonore have excellent ones.
On the cheap load up a Rapsberry Pi and plug USB into your Schiit DAC.
Yeah I do have an acute sense of hearing, and it is both a blessing and a 'curse'.You have amazing ears. I don't hear these things. I hear that 20min warm-up gives a little change for the better (bit warmer/smoother/nicer sound) After I cannot tell further changes ... Don't know if i am lucky or not
Yes I agree that is PART of this, but not all of it.No, your brain adjusted. We are not robots, we change minute by minute. To be able to observe such small change would require a vantage point other than what our humanity offers. It's good! It means you're alive!