Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up

[Moondog55]

Just about to try out my first Schitt product

It's a gateway drug. Continued use will result in peril to your wallet

 

[Moondog55]

Glass, aluminum, plastic....how 2020's. Cardboard is the future.

Sounds like a movie with a soundtrack...and here's to you Mrs. Robinson....

 

[sam6550a]

He lives in Georgia now. All they have down there is screw caps. And crew cabs.

Hey, stop talking about me. After all, I am from Newark. NJ.

 

[Balthazar B]

He probably IS Billy Carter incognito!!!!

Yeah, makes sense. He would have been old enough to have smuggled those Foton tubes out of the USSR hidden in his Po 30 years earlier.

 

[quimbo]

Cut outs predated the CD. A cut marked the album as overstock, sold at a discount.

Loved the cut out bins in the early to mid 70s. Discovered a lot of artists, my intro to Rory Gallagher was via cut out

 

[sixergixer]

Retired iPhone 8 running iOS 16.7.2 as a dedicated streamer through the camera dongle into MMB2

I don't necessarily have an answer to propose but I have noticed Apple Music (using the Apple Classical app) has not been acting gapless lately, inserting a brief interruption to the music between each track. I wonder if this is what causes your DAC to click each time as it re-establishes the stream. I don't know how that might correspond to the change in bit rate, etc.

 

[cgb3]

Ain't life grand!!??

Whats grand is you feeling it's grand. I think the same, daily.

To look at the news, it's nothing but bad times, recriminations, and victimhood.

We share a country, and an apolitical love of music (and gear).

Tomorrows going to a better day (especially with some new Schiit).

 

[Verde And Black]

I don't necessarily have an answer to propose but I have noticed Apple Music (using the Apple Classical app) has not been acting gapless lately, inserting a brief interruption to the music between each track. I wonder if this is what causes your DAC to click each time as it re-establishes the stream. I don't know how that might correspond to the change in bit rate, etc.

This image is from my actual phone, not my streamer phone, but the circled portion is the relevant bit.

If I’m playing an album that is supposed to be Hi-Res Lossless, this shows up, but if there’s a *click* on the next, or subsequent, tracks, and I check, that text/click has changed to “Lossless.” Another, later *click* and it’s back to “High-Res Lossless.”

Would be interested to hear from someone who has a DAC that displays sample rate to test, but not interested enough to pursue that hard.

 

[Balthazar B]

I don't necessarily have an answer to propose but I have noticed Apple Music (using the Apple Classical app) has not been acting gapless lately, inserting a brief interruption to the music between each track. I wonder if this is what causes your DAC to click each time as it re-establishes the stream. I don't know how that might correspond to the change in bit rate, etc.

The click between tracks that have different bitrates/depths is normal behavior for several Schiit DACs, and it's been discussed a bit. What's happening with Apple Music re gapless is different, but AFAIK, it's afflicting only some Apple Music (and Qobuz) users on iPhones, while others are reporting no problem running the same tests. I suspect it's something introduced with a new incarnation of iOS, or possibly something between iOS and certain older iPhones.

 

[Verde And Black]

The click between tracks that have different bitrates/depths is normal behavior for several Schiit DACs, and it's been discussed a bit. What's happening with Apple Music re gapless is different, but AFAIK, it's afflicting only some Apple Music (and Qobuz) users on iPhones, while others are reporting no problem running the same tests. I suspect it's something introduced with a new incarnation of iOS, or possibly something between iOS and certain older iPhones.

I’m aware the DAC clicks when bitrate changes.

But what I’m seeing is albums that are supposed to be at the high-res lossless rate switching over to regular lossless between tracks (and sometimes down to regular AAC 256kbs rates), while also going back up the tiers.

Why? Can’t say. It’s not a Schiit issue, it’s an Apple Music issue and one I would not be aware of if not for the *click* happening within an album that started at one sample rate and changed.

 

[Balthazar B]

I’m aware the DAC clicks when bitrate changes.

But what I’m seeing is albums that are supposed to be at the high-res lossless rate switching over to regular lossless between tracks (and sometimes down to regular AAC 256kbs rates), while also going back up the tiers.

Why? Can’t say. It’s not a Schiit issue, it’s an Apple Music issue and one I would not be aware of if not for the *click* happening within an album that started at one sample rate and changed.

FWIW, I get it on both Apple Music and Qobuz. I may have also gotten it on Amazon Music HD when I was trying it out, but that was a while back and I don't recall for sure. I think the individual tracks on albums may have different bitrates, and that's how they were supplied to the streaming services by the labels/publishers.

But I'm not having any issues with gapless (I know, that additional problem was reported by Sixergiver).

 

[M0X3]

Tell us more

Actually doesn't seem to work...? https://www.head-fi.org/threads/new-setup-not-playing-any-audio.970912/

 

[adias]

So, interesting experience with the Modi Multibit 2 & AppleMusic…

As we know, the MMB2 clicks when it changes sample rates. Established, fixed a problem, etc.

But, 90% of the time, when streaming music, we listen to albums. We’re both old and old fashioned like that. My teenage niece assures me this sort of behavior is considered odd these days…

Anyway, cue up an album in Apple HifhRes Losless. Press play. Clicking happening in-between certain tracks.

What?

But when I check the display, certain tracks drop down to simply “lossless.” Clicking explained.

Haven’t been able to trace a pattern yet, but it seems like ‘HighRes Lossless” is somehow not always the case (all settings on the iOS device are set to play it when available. Everything is being pulled over WiFi, no Bluetooth, AirPlay, etc.)

So, not sure if it’s somehow bandwidth related (our WiFi is Google Fiber and the junction box (or whatever it’s called) is right outside our house (literally in a corner of our yard) and there’s a WiFi repeater about 6 feet from the streaming device).

Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and probably not audible (though the clicks are if the room is otherwise quiet), but interesting….

Correct! On any given album tracks at Apple Music may be recorded at different sampling rates.

I am quite impressed with Apple Music sound quality. It just works And iPads are ideal to use as a music server connected via usb as they provide the track’s correct bitrate.

 

[artur9]

Hobbies... a part of the whole hobby thing is tweaking and upgrading, trying to eke out that extra <insert 'thing' specific to your ideal as it relates to whichever hobby is at the forefront today>.

... The home theatre amp is good for movies and shows, and OK for music. The front Wharfedale speakers are good ...

Wharfedales are quality and have been for a very long time. Your Denon is probably holding them back. Those AVR amps feel like they don't have a lot of oomph down low nor a lot of reserves for the dynamics presented by the most compelling music. (that Denon have pre amp outs?)

One of the most surprising things to me is how much difference a good amp makes. Never expected that.

 

[artur9]

Audyssey now theres a word!
Thought I was the only one that used this in setting up HT!
...

Y'know a word that doesn't get much love? MCACC from Pioneer. Just redid that this afternoon for one of my systems and, yeesh, what weird noises.