[Ableza]

The paypal pay in 4 has been enticing me to buy Schiit lately. Don't really understand what's in it for them to offer 0% payments but I'll take it!

PayPal charges sellers who accept it a fee, just like Visa and Mastercard do.

 

[Paladin79]

Are you are saying that a tube pre-amplifier adds more colorization than a tube power amplifier? I would tend to doubt that.

Obviously, in the Lyr+ the tube pre-amp stage would add more colorization than if the tube was pulled and operated in solid state mode for the pre-amp (the power amp stage is always solid state in the Lyr+). I would definitely think that the Lyr+ (with tube) would have less colorization than a full integrated 100% tube amp (tubes in both pre-amp and power-amp stages).

I owned a Lyr 3 I believe and to the best of my recollection it was a hybrid amp. I could not tell a lot of difference in most tubes I swapped unless they had extreme sonic differences. I personally hear less differences when I swap power tubes and I own both separate and integrated tube amps.

 

[theeclone]

PayPal charges sellers who accept it a fee, just like Visa and Mastercard do.

Makes sense! Although based on this it seems like it's included as part of their paypal checkout product.

 

[macdonjh]

Love Brian Bromberg! A couple of other "let's see how much bass this baby's got" suggestions...

Bela Fleck and the Flecktones' 'Flight of the Cosmic Hippo'
Marcus Miller's 'Cousin John'

+1

Unless you are a collector, or just like showing off, I just don't see the point of fancy watches at this point. My phone or computer will always tell me the time more accurately and I don't really see the point of wearing a watch as jewelry. Maybe if out in the wilds I could see wearing a sturdy watch but otherwise it seems an anachronism to me.

I think in general this may be a generation thing. Both Mrs. macdonjh and I wear watches, macdonjh Jr does not. Our daughter does, but she wears an Apple watch and still pulls her phone out to tell time. I'm not really sure why Mrs. macdonjh wears a watch: she's on her phone as much as our kids are. The only reason I carry a phone is to get texts from our kids.

My dress watch is a Rado: nice jewelry but not a very good watch. It's almost impossible to see the face in low light. My daily driver is a Hamilton Khaki, best ergonomics of any watch I've owned. The two Timexes I have (one IronMan and one analog) are still ticking away, so to speak. That's one reason I was so frustrated about that Timex which failed on me. I don't use my IronMan much anymore because I now have a Garmin which also keeps track of my heart rate while I exercise. That other Timex I use when I go into chemical plants: it's all metal and water proof so it's easy to clean.

 

[Ripper2860]

The you need the s.m.v. album. Hard to find, but brings all three together.

Excellent Album, but as stated, very hard to find and on no streaming services, AFAIK. Fortunately, I was able to order a CD via Discogs some time ago and it seems there are still some available...

https://www.discogs.com/sell/list?artist_id=1261379&ev=ab&format=CD

 

[Ripper2860]

I'm sure now they'll immediately put some silver ones up for sale

Freya+ N only came in black. There was never a silver version. If one does pop-up it means that 1) they've decided to un-discontinue (not gonna happen) or 2) it's a prototype/Unicorn. Suffice it to say -- you're safe!

 

[mfadio]

Unless you are a collector, or just like showing off, I just don't see the point of fancy watches at this point. My phone or computer will always tell me the time more accurately and I don't really see the point of wearing a watch as jewelry. Maybe if out in the wilds I could see wearing a sturdy watch but otherwise it seems an anachronism to me.

Style. It's not just about showing off.

 

[theeclone]

Freya+ N only came in black. There was never a silver version. If one does pop-up it means that 1) they've decided to un-discontinue (not gonna happen) or it's a prototype/Unicorn. Suffice it to say -- you're safe!

Thank you sir!

 

[Ableza]

Makes sense! Although based on this it seems like it's included as part of their paypal checkout product.

Right. And here are the fees for PayPal Checkout:

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/merchant-fees

 

[Smoothstereo]

Welp, I did it. Ordered a closeout black freya N. I'm sure now they'll immediately put some silver ones up for sale Looks like another trip to the schiitr is in my near future.

The paypal pay in 4 has been enticing me to buy Schiit lately. Don't really understand what's in it for them to offer 0% payments but I'll take it!

Wonder how many other ppl in the world will own an all lisst freya N

Congrats on your Freya N addition. I don't think you will regret it and I think you will get more upside by going balance connection with the LIM. Now you just have to wait to next summer for the Mjolnir 3 for a balance headphone amp.

 

[Daniel Johnston]

Makes sense! Although based on this it seems like it's included as part of their paypal checkout product.

And most importantly, some may not pay all off in time. Also, it gets more people to buy what they may not be able to afford. 0% interest for 6 months is tempting.

 

[theeclone]

Right. And here are the fees for PayPal Checkout:

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/merchant-fees

Yes, I saw that, but there are no fees associated w pay in 4/pay later listed, so it really does seem like it's just "built in".

And most importantly, some may not pay all off in time. Also, it gets more people to buy what they may not be able to afford. 0% interest for 6 months is tempting.

Pretty sure one of the big selling points to merchants is that they get all the money upfront. I don't recall seeing anything about how paypal would then claw back the money from the merchant if the customer didn't finish paying, but I suppose that's possible.

 

[Ableza]

Yes, I saw that, but there are no fees associated w pay in 4/pay later listed, so it really does seem like it's just "built in".

Thus my point. Someone asked "what's in it for PayPal" and the answer is they still get their fees, so if offering special payment options to buyers increases usage then they win.

 

[theeclone]

Thus my point. Someone asked "what's in it for PayPal" and the answer is they still get their fees, so if offering special payment options to buyers increases usage then they win.

Understood. My point was just that technically, it's not specifically a fee for pay in 4. It just comes with paypal checkout, and you don't save anything as a merchant by opting out of pay in 4.

You had said paypal charges merchants who "accept it a fee". But if "it" means pay in 4 then that's not technically true, unless you consider the fee to be built into paypal checkout, and thus all merchants who use paypal checkout implicitly accept that the cost of pay in 4 is built into the overall cost.

 

[45longcolt]

Unless you are a collector, or just like showing off, I just don't see the point of fancy watches at this point.

There's a myriad of things I don't see the point of, but others do. And I'm pleased for them to enjoy those things.

Much the same goes for tubes. Not sure why people want to list all the cons - could it be a case of Methinks he doth protest too much? Granted, tubes do distort more than solid state. However, tubes also distort differently, which is why so many find those glass bottles so appealing. Many of the objections to tubes strike me as conceptual, almost theological. If you're going strictly by the brain, rather than the ears, it's easy to say Distortion Bad and that's that. Kinda like cholesterol in the human diet. But the consensus these days seems to be that these is bad cholesterol and good cholesterol. Likewise, there's bad distortion and good distortion - and raw measurement numbers don't reflect the difference. Perhaps I should say there is bad distortion and pleasing distortion. In this way, tube "distortion" could be compared to pornography - our Inner Mommy tells us we shouldn't enjoy it yet we do. (One difference being that you can leave your tube gear on display in the living room without fear of censure.)

Of course there are any number of practical and financial difficulties with tubes. But so what? This is a hobby, fer cryin' out loud. We don't necessarily want it to be simple or efficient. One does not take up dry fly fishing because one is hungry. One wants the varied experiences, the challenges, the rituals. One is ready, even eager, to dive down the rabbit hole.

Whoops, verging on Armchair Philosopher territory. So I will just wish all a Happy New Year, with the means and time to enjoy your hobbies your way.

(BTW, the watch is a Tokyo 2020 Olympics special edition. I like the colorway, and it reminds me of my time in Japan. That's the point.)