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Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
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ArmchairPhilosopher
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Honestly, efficiency is not exactly what you're after when you're shopping for amps like Aegir or Tyr. Their topology is inherently "wasteful", at least when compared to stuff like Class D. But what you get in return is something that sounds considerably better, especially because it's able to handle transients (that's the short/sudden bursts of energy that are required to replicate the beginning of a louder sound, like the initial kick of a drum) a whole lot better.Efficiency?
So, while they aren't technically Class A, they do draw a considerable amount of power even when they're not playing any sound.
Both, Aegir and Tyr, have the ability to be put into a stand-by mode, though, by pushing the button that you see in the front of both amps.
Doing so de-biases the amp, which essentially "mutes" the whole thing, so the amplification part of the amp stops drawing power.
I measured the stand-by draw of both my Aegirs a few months ago, and they were sitting at around 4 watts of power draw while de-biased, and I think Jason mentioned somewhere that Tyr will draw around 5 watts while de-biased. My Vidars, which can't be de-biased, draw a whole lot more than that while idling.
That means that, depending on how many hours a day you're actually using your Aegir(s) or your Tyrs, they could end up being quite a lot less straining on your power bill than even just a single Vidar would be.
A little aside:
A lot of people switch their amps completely off to save on power. That's obviously an option, but I'd like to point out that capacitors don't exactly love cycling between fully charged and discharged a lot. So if longevity of your amp is important to you, you might want to consider leaving them on. While more wasteful on your power consumption, the caps in your amp will remain healthy for quite a bit longer.
But then again, you can always have your gear be re-capped every once in a while by a skilled technician… ;p
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Ableza
Headphoneus Supremus
A hearty congrats on nearing the end of a long and very interesting development story. I say "nearing" because nothing is ever really "done" forever. I can't wait to hear them.…the good news…
…is Tyr is here! Finally!
I really hope you enjoy!
Roy G. Biv
Headphoneus Supremus
Someday I'd like to fly into an airport that's finished or maybe drive in a city where the roads are finished. Probably never going to happen...A hearty congrats on nearing the end of a long and very interesting development story. I say "nearing" because nothing is ever really "done" forever. I can't wait to hear them.
Jason Stoddard
Sponsor: Schiit Audio
There you go.nothing is ever really "done"
Especially poignant on a day when nothing seems to be working...lots of new stuff in dev, lots of problems. Sometimes it stacks up that way.
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Dude, what? They are stereo pairs. They work together.Yes!! A throw-down between a LEFT channel Tyr and a RIGHT channel Tyr would be a show for the ages!!!
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It would have to be silver vs. black.
sam6550a
Headphoneus Supremus
I love to tackle those types of problems.There you go.
Especially poignant on a day when nothing seems to be working...lots of new stuff in dev, lots of problems. Sometimes it stacks up that way.
So these are nice, I can run long cables from the Freya and save on speaker cable ... so while we are on the subject and we have the attention of the man himself.
Dear @Jason Stoddard
Does Schiit recommend any particular size, type, metal, brand, vendor, connection of speaker cable? Is there a minimum requirement for, say, a 12 foot run?
Dear @Jason Stoddard
Does Schiit recommend any particular size, type, metal, brand, vendor, connection of speaker cable? Is there a minimum requirement for, say, a 12 foot run?
Ableza
Headphoneus Supremus
There must be something in the air today. My COO just repeated to me a project suggestion my Engineering team had made to him last September and which he had vetoed. So this previous design set is now the "new direction we should pursue" of course undoing the last 6 months' work. At least in your world you are following your own and your team's ideas, not having to swing to the breeze of a non-engineer MBA executive's whim...There you go.
Especially poignant on a day when nothing seems to be working...lots of new stuff in dev, lots of problems. Sometimes it stacks up that way.
Ah well, another few months closer to retirement.
ArmchairPhilosopher
Headphoneus Supremus
So do I.I love to tackle those types of problems.
In moderation.
It gets old quick, though, once it starts to feel like all you do anymore is put out fires left and right…
JohnnyCanuck
Headphoneus Supremus
Ah well, another few months closer to retirement.
We had a saying in the (Canadian) navy: it's all pensionable time.
Well, more of a mantra, really
JC
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dstrimbu
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Efficiency?
Yeah, maybe even 2.5x more efficient than Aegir...Just going off the power consumption vs power output posted on the website, it looks to be a little less than half as efficient as Vidar but more than twice as efficient as Aegir.
Monoblock, wRMS into 8 ohms | Max Power Consumption in watts | |
Aegir | 80 | 450 |
Tyr | 200 | 750 |
Vidar | 400 | 700 |
I can tell you that my monoblock Vidars run waaay cooler than I ever imagined they could/should, driving the B&W 804 D3s - not the easiest load in the upper mid-bass region.
This is gonna be fun. But then, who doesn't love new Schiit?
ArmchairPhilosopher
Headphoneus Supremus
Feels like that's the new normal lately, I've been dealing with similar situations with essentially all of my clients all year. Feels like there's some mix of accountability-aversion, selective memory lapses, and a pinch of unusually pervasive risk-avoidance going around everywhere you look…There must be something in the air today. My COO just repeated to me a project suggestion my Engineering team had made to him last September and which he had vetoed. So this previous design set is now the "new direction we should pursue" of course undoing the last 6 months' work. At least in your world you are following your own and your team's ideas, not having to swing to the breeze of a non-engineer MBA executive's whim...
Ah well, another few months closer to retirement.
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Already got my matching granite slabs picked out for Tyr.
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Perfect width to match and only 1/3” deeper than the Tyr chassis. They even weigh 55lbs each just like Tyr!
Will match the speaker granite perfectly!
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k1038117619
Perfect width to match and only 1/3” deeper than the Tyr chassis. They even weigh 55lbs each just like Tyr!
Will match the speaker granite perfectly!
dhcarquinez
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In the software QA world, I was responsible for calling a release "done". Then, at the last minute some exec would have a brilliant idea, that had to be included "now!"...not having to swing to the breeze of a non-engineer MBA executive's whim...
We called that AEU: Arbitrary Executive Urgency.
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