Hi everyone. I haven't participated much in this thread but wanted to pop in to say I replaced an OG first release Gungnir multibit with the new Bifrost 2/64 in m y living room system and to these ears, the Bifrost sounds better. I also prefer the standard mode to NOS. YMMV of course.
I replaced my OG Bifrost MB with the Bifrost 2/64 not too long ago.
As a Yggdrasil user, would you say the BF2 sounds significantly inferior? I’m tempted to snag a close out LIM. I don’t have the hearing to tell minute difference.
I replaced my OG Bifrost MB with the Bifrost 2/64 not too long ago.
As a Yggdrasil user, would you say the BF2 sounds significantly inferior? I’m tempted to snag a close out LIM. I don’t have the hearing to tell minute difference.
The systems they are currently used on are vastly different, one being a higher-end headphone setup and the other being for 2-channel music in my living room, so it's impossible to compare. But when I first got Yggdrasil I directly A/B compared it to the Gungnir MB in my headphone system and found Yggdrasil to be vastly superior to my taste. Indeed, the Yggdrasil replaced a DAC that was 10X more expensive (Wavelength Crimson.) The Gungnir went into the living room system to replace a broken Kora that was almost 20 years old.
In my opinion, if you can afford to try a Yggdrasil you should, especially with Unison if you use USB. To my ears, Unison is a very nice upgrade with improvements in clarity and dynamics.
The systems they are currently used on are vastly different, one being a higher-end headphone setup and the other being for 2-channel music in my living room, so it's impossible to compare. But when I first got Yggdrasil I directly A/B compared it to the Gungnir MB in my headphone system and found Yggdrasil to be vastly superior to my taste. Indeed, the Yggdrasil replaced a DAC that was 10X more expensive (Wavelength Crimson.) The Gungnir went into the living room system to replace a broken Kora that was almost 20 years old.
In my opinion, if you can afford to try a Yggdrasil you should, especially with Unison if you use USB. To my ears, Unison is a very nice upgrade with improvements in clarity and dynamics.
I replaced my OG Bifrost MB with the Bifrost 2/64 not too long ago.
As a Yggdrasil user, would you say the BF2 sounds significantly inferior? I’m tempted to snag a close out LIM. I don’t have the hearing to tell minute difference.
Just a update on my end.
I ended up choosing a Primaluna Prologue 4 over the Rouge Stereo 100.
It wasn't even close.
Dethroned my excellent sounding PA2400 (not the Sig 1.5 however).
Amazing how well this drive my still stock Infinity RSiiia's.
Stock tubes and all-this is one heck of a amp.
Should have picked one up years ago-esp when K. Deal was blowing them out.
Everything he mentions about it is frankly true..
The 2/64 card is still on the back burner.
I need to live with this for awhile.
I good thing for sure.
But with time constraints-I may be recapping the Infinite's before the card.
They sound so good anyway-one would wonder why.
Superior Z's frankly will benefit most speakers in a good way-never heard a bad install with these.
Hard to say about most components.
Hello there, new to headfi! I have a number of Schiit products though and am very happy with the Bifrost 2/64 upgrade. In my system I have a Raspberry Pi running Volumio sending to my Bifrost via USB and that's my primary source. The Bifrost outputs to a Freya+ and it to two Vidars which drive a pair of Tekton Pendragons.
I was happy with the Bifrost prior to the upgrade but it seemed a bit "dark" in my system, which to me means a bit of emphasis on the mid to lower frequencies. I got the Bifrost 2 sometime in 2021 and the upgrade card around August or September, so I've had some time to listen to it before and after.
After the upgrade I felt like I had the high end sparkle that I felt was a little lacking and overall just an even better sounding DAC. I don't listen to headphones very often so I don't have any thoughts on that, but if I upgrade to the Yggy I will definitely move the Bifrost to my computer setup and that might change!
Hello there, new to headfi! I have a number of Schiit products though and am very happy with the Bifrost 2/64 upgrade. In my system I have a Raspberry Pi running Volumio sending to my Bifrost via USB and that's my primary source. The Bifrost outputs to a Freya+ and it to two Vidars which drive a pair of Tekton Pendragons.
I was happy with the Bifrost prior to the upgrade but it seemed a bit "dark" in my system, which to me means a bit of emphasis on the mid to lower frequencies. I got the Bifrost 2 sometime in 2021 and the upgrade card around August or September, so I've had some time to listen to it before and after.
After the upgrade I felt like I had the high end sparkle that I felt was a little lacking and overall just an even better sounding DAC. I don't listen to headphones very often so I don't have any thoughts on that, but if I upgrade to the Yggy I will definitely move the Bifrost to my computer setup and that might change!
Welcome! We are of the same mind. Also primarily a speaker listener (don't like the term 2ch. Aren't headphones also 2ch? ). My impressions were exactly the same RE: OG and 2/64.
Also, from my experience, you can wring even more quality out of the BF2 by using a source with a better quality USB implementation than that found in an Rpi (even the Rpi 4 wasn't the best in that regard to my ears). Also, been a while since I looked at Volumio, but does it use ALSA drivers? I use Kodi and was surprised at what a difference setting it to use ALSA made.
Welcome! We are of the same mind. Also primarily a speaker listener (don't like the term 2ch. Aren't headphones also 2ch? ). My impressions were exactly the same RE: OG and 2/64.
Also, from my experience, you can wring even more quality out of the BF2 by using a source with a better quality USB implementation than that found in an Rpi (even the Rpi 4 wasn't the best in that regard to my ears). Also, been a while since I looked at Volumio, but does it use ALSA drivers? I use Kodi and was surprised at what a difference setting it to use ALSA made.
Yeah Volumio uses alsa, and I've been impressed with how it sounds from the pi. I've used moOde as well and it's pretty good but had stability issues with it. I have a TV and Blu ray player that I use as sources as well via toslink and all sound pretty amazing. I use Kodi on the TV but mostly for movies and it is nice.
Yeah Volumio uses alsa, and I've been impressed with how it sounds from the pi. I've used moOde as well and it's pretty good but had stability issues with it. I have a TV and Blu ray player that I use as sources as well via toslink and all sound pretty amazing. I use Kodi on the TV but mostly for movies and it is nice.
Nice! Volumio is looking real good these days. As I understand it there's a paid version but iirc it's for if you want to include streaming services, which I don't anyway.
Just a update on my end.
I ended up choosing a Primaluna Prologue 4 over the Rouge Stereo 100.
It wasn't even close.
Dethroned my excellent sounding PA2400 (not the Sig 1.5 however).
Amazing how well this drive my still stock Infinity RSiiia's.
Stock tubes and all-this is one heck of a amp.
Should have picked one up years ago-esp when K. Deal was blowing them out.
Everything he mentions about it is frankly true..
The 2/64 card is still on the back burner.
I need to live with this for awhile.
I good thing for sure.
But with time constraints-I may be recapping the Infinite's before the card.
They sound so good anyway-one would wonder why.
Superior Z's frankly will benefit most speakers in a good way-never heard a bad install with these.
Hard to say about most components.
Interesting-thanks for the tips.
I may still just leave the BF2 as is.
I have a friend that wants a 2/64 update anyway.
This guy still has the O.E. tubes.
Reminds me of a modern version of my dad's kit built Cit V (Cit IV preamp).
Same power and smoothness.
That's interesting with the Paradigm rep.
These lil' amps have some serious drive, I think alot of people just don't realize how well they sound.
I just need to find a good source for the O.E. tubes-as Upscale seems to want to sell only to customers that bought the amps from them.
I agree on the prices-I got the amp for less then 1-k.
A ok deal-compared to the new Evo-a great deal.
I liked the Rogue construction wise (super heavy) but it just sounded eh.
Could be the KT-120's not sure.
But at their prices-I wasn't interested in spending another 5+ on tubes.
Just my opinion-it should sound right out of the box-or close.
This was way off for me.
Interesting-thanks for the tips.
This guy still has the O.E. tubes.
Reminds me of a modern version of my dad's kit built Cit V (Cit IV preamp).
Same power and smoothness.
That's interesting with the Paradigm rep.
These lil' amps have some serious drive, I think alot of people just don't realize how well they sound.
I just need to find a good source for the O.E. tubes-as Upscale seems to want to sell only to customers that bought the amps from them.
A Citation V reborn is definitely my dream amp. Ampsandsound makes one called Zion Monos and will definitely put that on my short list when I'm ready to go back to speaker setup
Interesting-thanks for the tips.
I may still just leave the BF2 as is.
I have a friend that wants a 2/64 update anyway.
This guy still has the O.E. tubes.
Reminds me of a modern version of my dad's kit built Cit V (Cit IV preamp).
Same power and smoothness.
That's interesting with the Paradigm rep.
These lil' amps have some serious drive, I think alot of people just don't realize how well they sound.
I just need to find a good source for the O.E. tubes-as Upscale seems to want to sell only to customers that bought the amps from them.
I agree on the prices-I got the amp for less then 1-k.
A ok deal-compared to the new Evo-a great deal.
I liked the Rogue construction wise (super heavy) but it just sounded eh.
Could be the KT-120's not sure.
But at their prices-I wasn't interested in spending another 5+ on tubes.
Just my opinion-it should sound right out of the box-or close.
This was way off for me.
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). My impressions were exactly the same RE: OG and 2/64.
