[Slaphead]

I'm still not sure about the T20, I am however keeping it as it's got such a unique sound signature which really brings a good dose of kick and life into some music, but equally can be painful to listen to on other tracks. Overall I find these have the best balance with the bass filter, as this brings out the midrange. Unfortunately using any of the other filters causes the treble to become overly dominant to my ears.

 

[magicalmouse]

I agree the bass filter works for me as it brings body and life to vocals which tend to be a little thin otherwise.
 
With the bass filter (which does not overdo the bass) i really enjoy these as an alternative to my se535, each brings differnet qualities although if i had to choose one it would b the se535.
 
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[Deftone]

is there a non remote black version?

 

[kimD]

is there a non remote black version?

Yes you can have it from Apple Store

 

[istirsin]

  I can compare to DUNU DN-1000 which is a triple driver too that sounds excelent for the price and RHA T20 performs very close with a bit better bass definition. Can also compare to Trinity ATLAS where T20 has better treble (refinement), body and separation (although ATLAS has better bass definition and transparency).

 
I have the Trinity Atlas. Would you say that the T20 an upgrade or are they close enough that I should just keep my Atlas'?

 

[azizfrost]

this or shure 425? sound quality and value...

 

[magicalmouse]

  this or shure 425? sound quality and value...

I have the se535 and can say (imo) the shures are warmer and more inviting (especially with vocals) but the rha has deeper heavier bass even with the reference filters, remember the shures cost almost twice the rha - i suspect the choice will depend upon musical choices, i listen to lots of vocal jazz/blues and both sound good but if you have the rha then a warm sounding dap/amp would be helpful, however with electric/electronic music then the rha have more bite.
 
hope thi8s helps
 
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[HiFiChris]

  this or shure 425? sound quality and value...

 
Both have got a totally different tuning (see my post here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/771820/rha-t20-impressions-reviews-and-questions/630#post_12309683).
 
It would totally depend on what kind of sound signature you are looking for. The SE425 is pretty neutral with a slightly stronger focus on mids whereas the T20 is a pretty bassy in-ear.

 

[Tooros]

I Love my T20's but I'm utterly fed up with dicking about with the memory wire.
Why do iem manufactures think this is a design feature people want?
 
All it does is make fitting MORE difficult, not easier.
 
Tension on the memory wire pushes, or pulls, against the tip. It can take ages to finish tweaking to get them right - WHY? Why not just have a flexible strain relief than doesn't exert external force on the tip and seal?
 
Has anyone started offering a replacement cabling service yet? I'm guessing it might not be possible?
 
/rant

 

[Slaphead]

I guess the memory wire is one of those love it or hate it things. I don't really have a problem fitting the T20, and I never need to mess around with the wire - I just pull the cinch up a bit and all is fine.

 

[silverre]

Hi all..
Did any1 tried filters from other iems?? I swapped in the bass filters for my kz ed9 and it fits just nice
Cuts a little on the low end and sounds airy compared to the reference filters~~
The ed9 longer filters (which gives a flat sound sig on ed9) on the other hand though was not a pleasant change..

So i wanted to see if any1 else has ventured into these area?? I feel that the bass on ref filters are still too much for me..

 

[dlayman]

I agree. Never had a problem with the memory wire on these. Quite like it in fact. It's pretty easy to mold into shape and seems to retain it quite well, so insertion is quick and easy and stays in place. No memory wire is usually easier to fit in a hurry but soon the cable is not in place on top of the ear and is flopping around. The seal holds, but it's distracting.

 

[Tom22]

Hi all..
Did any1 tried filters from other iems?? I swapped in the bass filters for my kz ed9 and it fits just nice
Cuts a little on the low end and sounds airy compared to the reference filters~~
The ed9 longer filters (which gives a flat sound sig on ed9) on the other hand though was not a pleasant change..

So i wanted to see if any1 else has ventured into these area?? I feel that the bass on ref filters are still too much for me..

They fit? Oh cool. Unfortunately thats the rha house sound ive come across i havent tried the ma750s but ur getting a thick kick withcthe t10 ma600,t20s in varying degrees

 

[warrior1975]

I have issues with it as well. I read here that once you put them in your ears, kind of pull down on the wire by the cinch and it tightens them up. Works for me.

 

[Tooros]

It's not that the memory wire doesn't work as such. It's just a faff getting the stuff to sit without levering out the seal at times. I thought it would be an improvement and negate the need to cinch up too much but it's not imho. Never had an issue with just a flexible cable. Shure, sennheiser, gro7 etc all fit perfectly without any issue.


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