Review on HtC 10 and Sound quality (AQstic Dedicated Integrated DAC)

Oct 29, 2016 at 9:30 PM Post #346 of 1,164
Pocketnow just released a long term review of the 10 that compares the HO to the LG V20. In short, the output is mostly superior on the 10 but the V20 has a stronger Amp, it's a good watch:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvdmNp9EBbg
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 1:29 AM Post #347 of 1,164
Pocketnow just released a long term review of the 10 that compares the HO to the LG V20. In short, the output is mostly superior on the 10 but the V20 has a stronger Amp, it's a good watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvdmNp9EBbg


Very good watch. I have to agree it is so underrated. Definitely one of the top 2 phones I've had the pleasure of using this year. Haven't yet tried the v20 extensively at this point. Still waiting for my US unlocked version. Played around with my friends T-Mobile version briefly though.
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 1:50 AM Post #348 of 1,164
i'd def agree only if you're talking about the HTC10 which is a very well rounded phone on top of having great audio quality. Can't say the same for LG phones despite them have good sound. If all things considered, the htc10 is a great phone probably one of the most underrated up there with sony xz. 
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 3:54 AM Post #349 of 1,164
Yes, I was definitely referring to the HTC 10. I haven't had my hands on a v20 long enough to give it a fair assessment. Crazy though, that the guys in the v20 forum sing it's praises and I think everyone over there with a 10 and v20 give the v20 the nod over the HTC. Is everyone seduced by the volume level vs audio quality? They claim better soundstage and separation....strange. I just don't know. What is it that this HTC does that makes it so great. So frustrating, lol.
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 4:21 AM Post #350 of 1,164
Reading what the Qualcomm aqstic codec is, basically it is the DAC built into the 820 SoC. So if that's all it is it's basically the 820 DAC and it's the headphone amp that is making all the difference. But.....androidcentral states that they've heard directly from HTC who states there's a discrete DAC. Discrete I guess implies separate and dedicated...Dammit HTC just make it public knowledge!!!?!!

Qualcomm Aqstic is an add-on feature in 820. Phone manufactures need to pay Qualcomm extra to use it. For example Oneplus3 choose to keep the price down and use 820 with the standard DAC.
I doubt it is software only.
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 4:43 AM Post #351 of 1,164
I for one would go for the HTC any day over the LG . Given that HTC flagship device are of better finishing , quality over LG .
Anyway , amp or output is not the consideration for me , as my intention is to be paired up with my E5 and mojo .
HTC 10 for me .
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 5:13 AM Post #352 of 1,164
it seems that volume and loudness tends to fool a lot of people when it comes into sound quality. People really just equate loudness with quality maybe because you can hear more things when its loud?
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 5:15 AM Post #353 of 1,164
I for one would go for the HTC any day over the LG . Given that HTC flagship device are of better finishing , quality over LG .
Anyway , amp or output is not the consideration for me , as my intention is to be paired up with my E5 and mojo .
HTC 10 for me .

agreed. HTC10 is build like a tank and lg has really ugly UI and software. 
 
Is it taboo to talk about anything else besides sound quality here? 
 
sorry in advance. 
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 6:47 AM Post #354 of 1,164
What are the differences between htc 10 and one M8 which the headphone connection subject?
The sound of the htc 10 heard better or m8 can still keep up? I use an audiofly af160
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 10:09 AM Post #355 of 1,164
Qualcomm Aqstic is an add-on feature in 820. Phone manufactures need to pay Qualcomm extra to use it. For example Oneplus3 choose to keep the price down and use 820 with the standard DAC.
I doubt it is software only.


This is exactly it, and people have been misunderstanding what Qualcomm is doing. Snapdragon has the compatibility to accommodate their own in house design of DAC. Before 820, it was all built in (standard), on 820, manufacturers has the option to "opt for" the superior and dedicated DAC which was "specially designed by Qualcomm" to work well in their own system on chip.

1/ standard integrated DAC
2/ Astiq DAC

However the manufacture prefer, and good thing is that it is tunable too, HTC tuned it toward more warmth and colorations to be more appealing to the mass. It is not neutral or natural, but is enjoyable, none the less.


This is an integrated DAC, but it is only an option....and it is qualified as discrete. The reason why HTC 10 is compatible with all 3rd party apps without constant upgrade is the "hardware comparability" as an integrated by Qualcomm. The V10 is more natural and neutral, but I dislike the fact that it constantly bump into 3rd party app bugs that need fix. The HtC10, on the other hand ? Is excellent

The bonus thing on the HTC 10 is the audio quality over Bluetooth. It is very good, it is even better than my Zx2 Bluetooth to my Lexus....especially the soundstage presentation.

I can tell you that as phone Eco system goes...every android phones with 3rd party DAC, including Axon 7, will always have problems with Android 3rd party app bugs. It is one of the down side of Android, unless it was built within the hardware like Qualcomm is doing.

So my conclusion ? HTC 10 is the best phone for the money on usability, comparability, sound quality, connectivity out there. No other phones matches it, period.
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 11:44 AM Post #357 of 1,164
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Oct 30, 2016 at 4:14 PM Post #358 of 1,164
Very well written Whitigir.

I agree 100 %, the HTC 10 is the overall best phone at the moment. All things put together V10/V20 can't compete.

I would argue the Sony xperia XZ is the overall best phone. the HTC10 and the Sony xperia XZ are the two most underrated phones in terms of quality and performance. 
 
Im just waiting for DXO to test out the Sony's new camera but given all the new tech packed in it might top the scoreboard as number 1 ahead of pixel. Also heard it has a really high quality DAC like that of the HTC10. 
 
I'd give it the edge over the htc10 due to ip68 and unique alkaleido meta as well as the qnovo battery tech. But BOTH way underrated phones. 
 
I hope someone can compare the sound quality between them. 
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 4:36 PM Post #359 of 1,164
I like Sony Xperia phones but the Z5 at least was not that good in audio. I have not heard the xz, but I don't think it can match H10. If it could I would buy it.

My own theory. Sony could make the best sounding smartphone ever, but they don't want to compete with themselves.
 
Oct 30, 2016 at 4:59 PM Post #360 of 1,164
I like Sony Xperia phones but the Z5 at least was not that good in audio. I have not heard the xz, but I don't think it can match H10. If it could I would buy it.

My own theory. Sony could make the best sounding smartphone ever, but they don't want to compete with themselves.

compete with themselves do you mean the sony walkman mp3 players? I know the z3 had top notch sound quality and I own it so I can vouch for it. 
 
I'd say the htc10 and the sony xz are the two best smartphoens you can buy right now. Overall, i'd put the sony slightly ahead of the htc10 for software optimization, design, ip68, front facing speakers, and better overall camera experience both selfie and rear camera. it's a great device and both are the most underrated. 
 
the xz has a very high quality DAC along with HTC10 from what i've heard 
 

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