Skylab
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Well I have always used the same tube in all 3 positions, but I understand what Steve is saying.
REVIEW: Decware Select Zen CSP2 Tube Headphone Amp
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Skylab do you know if this can be made with two inputs and a sub mono output. I am thinking of getting one to run with my Outlaw 2150 driving my Maggie MMG andd sub. I use two players as a source one redbook cd player and a SACD player.
| Originally Posted by Skylab /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well I have always used the same tube in all 3 positions, but I understand what Steve is saying. |
Skylab do you know if this can be made with two inputs and a sub mono output. I am thinking of getting one to run with my Outlaw 2150 driving my Maggie MMG andd sub. I use two players as a source one redbook cd player and a SACD player.
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No clue. But ask Steve - he's pretty responsive.
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thanks
| Originally Posted by Skylab /img/forum/go_quote.gif No clue. But ask Steve - he's pretty responsive. |
thanks
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My CSP-2 should arrive on Thursday. I'll be sure to post my impressions after lots of listening. I've never hit F5 on the UPS tracking page this many times before
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The amp has 2 stereo inputs, 1 stereo output and a mono out for a sub. Is this what you're asking? My plans are to feed one input with my record player and the other with my DAC hooked up to my various digital sources. I don't currently have a sub but that mono-out won't be lonely for long
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The amp has 2 stereo inputs, 1 stereo output and a mono out for a sub. Is this what you're asking? My plans are to feed one input with my record player and the other with my DAC hooked up to my various digital sources. I don't currently have a sub but that mono-out won't be lonely for long
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Exactly what I am looking for. I want to use it as a preamp for my Outlaw 2150 and be able to hook up a sacd and cd player with a mono sub for my Outlaw sub. This is what I was hoping for.
| Originally Posted by datura647 /img/forum/go_quote.gif My CSP-2 should arrive on Thursday. I'll be sure to post my impressions after lots of listening. I've never hit F5 on the UPS tracking page this many times before
Frank I: The amp has 2 stereo inputs, 1 stereo output and a mono out for a sub. Is this what you're asking? My plans are to feed one input with my record player and the other with my DAC hooked up to my various digital sources. I don't currently have a sub but that mono-out won't be lonely for long
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Exactly what I am looking for. I want to use it as a preamp for my Outlaw 2150 and be able to hook up a sacd and cd player with a mono sub for my Outlaw sub. This is what I was hoping for.
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Has anyone compared the CSP-2 to an EC Zana Deux? In design and price, these are very different amps but I wonder how close they might be in performance.
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Just picked up 3 NOS Mullard CV2492's Gold Pin versions for my CSP2 for 60 bucks! I hope I'll like em! Think I will keep this amp for a little while
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NICE - that's a great price on those, and they sound great in the CSP-2.
| Originally Posted by Who? /img/forum/go_quote.gif Just picked up 3 NOS Mullard CV2492's Gold Pin versions for my CSP2 for 60 bucks! I hope I'll like em! Think I will keep this amp for a little while
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NICE - that's a great price on those, and they sound great in the CSP-2.
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That's what I thought as well
You know I couldn't pass on these tubes... I am already pleased to own and use this amp, it can only get better!
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CSP-2 just arrived after 5-week of waiting.
Out of box with 6N1P and Raytheon 5U4G, it sound very smooth and nice. I was surprised by its voltage gain. I can only turn to about 8 o'clock with DT880/600.
Then, I just cannot wait longer and switch to Amperex Bugle Boy 6DJ8. The clarity and sound decay has been improved and still remind quite nice texture. I can see CSP-2 has very good potential as it burnt in. Comparing to Phoenix, the soundstage is closer and decay is a little bit less. The width of the soundstage is narrow. This may mainly due to the SE vs Balanced connection. Also, CSP-2 can only use the RCA connection with REF-1, which has much less SNR comparing to ASCC connection. So even with such unfair sourcing situation, CSP-2 still shines well. Very promising.
The only thing bothers me is that the voltage gain seems to be very high. I can only use about 5~10% (7~8 o'clock) position of the pot. Can any one verify that? I thought those are not the optimal position for a volume pot.
Out of box with 6N1P and Raytheon 5U4G, it sound very smooth and nice. I was surprised by its voltage gain. I can only turn to about 8 o'clock with DT880/600.
Then, I just cannot wait longer and switch to Amperex Bugle Boy 6DJ8. The clarity and sound decay has been improved and still remind quite nice texture. I can see CSP-2 has very good potential as it burnt in. Comparing to Phoenix, the soundstage is closer and decay is a little bit less. The width of the soundstage is narrow. This may mainly due to the SE vs Balanced connection. Also, CSP-2 can only use the RCA connection with REF-1, which has much less SNR comparing to ASCC connection. So even with such unfair sourcing situation, CSP-2 still shines well. Very promising.
The only thing bothers me is that the voltage gain seems to be very high. I can only use about 5~10% (7~8 o'clock) position of the pot. Can any one verify that? I thought those are not the optimal position for a volume pot.
Skylab
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My normal listening with DX1000 is at the 9:00 position. That produces average levels of 80dBA (again, with my source, and the DX1000). If your source has a high output level, I can see how that might be an issue. I have found the pot to be pretty linear, though. The only problem with the lower end of a pot is that some pots don't have good channel balance in the lower range. I have not seen that with the CSP-2.
fipple8
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Congrats on getting your CSP2, dukja. Depending on the recording, my Peter Daniel dac's output generally has me setting volume somewhere between 9 o'clock and 11 o'clock with AKG K 701 headphones.
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@fipple8
I actually has Peter's NOS DAC in the past and I knew its output is at normal (2V?) range. My recent DAC such as DLIII and Ref-1 both have 2.5V output That may be part of the reason. I also send out a mail to Steve to see if we can get the gain tune down if I ever send CSP-2 back for step attenuator in the future. Will post back his reply!
And I guess this gain issue may not be address with different tubes?
I actually has Peter's NOS DAC in the past and I knew its output is at normal (2V?) range. My recent DAC such as DLIII and Ref-1 both have 2.5V output That may be part of the reason. I also send out a mail to Steve to see if we can get the gain tune down if I ever send CSP-2 back for step attenuator in the future. Will post back his reply!
And I guess this gain issue may not be address with different tubes?
fipple8
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Amazing what .5V will do, huh?
Steve is definitely the guy to ask here, especially about lower gain tubes to sub for the 6DJ8 family the amp is designed for. A few years ago, I needed a little more gain from a fi Yph phono pre and Don Garber sent me a pair of 6JK8 tubes. It worked, but I didn't like the sound much. A change in source, in this case a higher output cartridge, was a much better solution for me.
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