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Jul 8, 2005 at 5:03 PM Post #16 of 35
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Originally Posted by RnB180
Nice to be on the soap box
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, but it would also be nice to respect the opinions of others.


I do. I just wanted to share my opinion and I encourage him to look at both views before making any decisions or judgements. If you go buy into audiophile company marketing and take everything everyone says about cables, connectors, etc sound better to heart without trying to view it from both "scientific" and "faith" perpsectives, you are no better than the average fool who buys into Bose marketing.
 
Jul 8, 2005 at 5:59 PM Post #17 of 35
Bose is over priced but their speakers are decent sounding.

The floorstanding speakers are designed well enough to sound like a live performance. Simplicity and WAF factor also plays a role in their success.

Compared to all the stuff out there, $3000 for for an entire set of speakers is chump change in the world of audio.

its not as bad as say buying a pair of Qualia's at msrp
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Jul 8, 2005 at 6:13 PM Post #18 of 35
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Originally Posted by Emon
I do. I just wanted to share my opinion and I encourage him to look at both views before making any decisions or judgements. If you go buy into audiophile company marketing and take everything everyone says about cables, connectors, etc sound better to heart without trying to view it from both "scientific" and "faith" perpsectives, you are no better than the average fool who buys into Bose marketing.


You try to make sweeping assumptions about cables rather than recognizing that there is a difference between headphone and speaker cables, in that headphone cables are deliberately made very thin. I'm not going to do a back-and-forth arguing over the issues but you have jumped to conclusions even after others DO notice an improvement. YOu seem to want to argue only within the context of electrical function, rather than realizing that an analog audio signal needs preservation.

Minor changes to an AC line may not make a difference to final function of the device, but there is not such a concern when cables filter or shape incoming noise- just the opposite, in general that noise is bad EXCEPT when the "noise" per se IS the audio we want to hear.

You also make sweeping generalizions about how an o-scope can't measure a difference. Not true. Cables themselves ARE sometimes rated for their electrical properties and indeed can be measured to have a difference. Further, the human ear CAN hear changes an o-scope may not. Take an opamp for example- they all scope out fairly well but even an untrained ear can often hear differences in blind tests- even if they can't pick out what's what, they can tell you if it's same thing or different.
 
Jul 8, 2005 at 10:38 PM Post #19 of 35
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Originally Posted by mono
You try to make sweeping assumptions about cables rather than recognizing that there is a difference between headphone and speaker cables, in that headphone cables are deliberately made very thin. I'm not going to do a back-and-forth arguing over the issues but you have jumped to conclusions even after others DO notice an improvement. YOu seem to want to argue only within the context of electrical function, rather than realizing that an analog audio signal needs preservation.

Minor changes to an AC line may not make a difference to final function of the device, but there is not such a concern when cables filter or shape incoming noise- just the opposite, in general that noise is bad EXCEPT when the "noise" per se IS the audio we want to hear.

You also make sweeping generalizions about how an o-scope can't measure a difference. Not true. Cables themselves ARE sometimes rated for their electrical properties and indeed can be measured to have a difference. Further, the human ear CAN hear changes an o-scope may not. Take an opamp for example- they all scope out fairly well but even an untrained ear can often hear differences in blind tests- even if they can't pick out what's what, they can tell you if it's same thing or different.


Well it's tough to argue against you, since you're probably right.
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I guess cables CAN make a difference, but I don't think it's to anywhere near the extent a lot of people make it out to be. Connectors, too - if a connector is making decent contact and providing it's not made out of a crappy material, it won't sound different than any fancy audiophile connector. The Bullet Plug site for example, is filled with crap. Micro-arcs? Come on now.

I suppose maybe I've been too critical of cables and such, but it's hard not to be with everything out there these days. If somone will buy something of "higher quality" there will be someone to sell it. And if you expect something to sound better, it probably will.

As far as the scoping, I meant if a high end scope can't tell the difference between the final analog signal but your ears can...eh, sorry, that just seems kind of unlikely. Maybe it can be sometimes, but it's just that with a scope you're getting much more concrete, measurable information. If you listen hard enough, anything can sound good. Hearing is just so subjective...
 
Jul 10, 2005 at 12:36 AM Post #20 of 35
getting back on topic, does anyone know how to properly take apart the HD595's? I have some Cardas cable lying around and I would like to recable mine.
 
Jul 10, 2005 at 12:50 AM Post #21 of 35
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Originally Posted by fr4c
getting back on topic, does anyone know how to properly take apart the HD595's? I have some Cardas cable lying around and I would like to recable mine.


you pull off the foam ear-pillows, pull off the thingy that covores the driver (there is a litte notch to pry it) and then unscrew the 3 philips headed screws holding the drivers&plate assy onto the cups.
 
Jul 10, 2005 at 5:18 AM Post #23 of 35
I suppose the PDF is a little non-specific on exactly how to execute the steps described. I imagine the 595 has a lot of plastic snaps, so gently check under and around edges. Pry, pull, but gently.
 
Jul 10, 2005 at 6:09 AM Post #24 of 35
The PDF is sufficient, IMO. What else is there to elaborate on? It shows which way to pull, which way to pry the liner, which direction the foam comes out (which really is obvious), which way to pry the pin header and which way to pull up on the clip.

It is more trouble to follow the PDF than just noting the cushion and liner snap-off then winging it. Only part that even remotely needs coordination is getting the clip back on. Good needle-nose pliers help.
 
Jul 10, 2005 at 8:51 PM Post #27 of 35
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Originally Posted by fr4c
I missed the link due to the "discussion" over the merits of a cable upgrade.

No need to get all jumpy over me.


Not jumpy, everyone overlooks something, should've posted a few
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Jul 10, 2005 at 10:56 PM Post #28 of 35
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Originally Posted by RnB180
I didnt know sennheiser had a rewire tutorial, do they sell replacement headphone cables for the 595?


They have replacement cables for just about every headphone they make, and many for ones they no longer make. Check Sennheiser USA's website, under support, I think.
 
Jul 13, 2005 at 2:54 PM Post #30 of 35
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Originally Posted by RnB180
I didnt know sennheiser had a rewire tutorial, do they sell replacement headphone cables for the 595?


They are supposed to, but have yet to get them in stock (sennheiserusa). I asked three months ago, and they said they would have them in stock in a couple of weeks. The next time I asked they dodged the question.
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