QDC - Discussion and Impressions Thread
Oct 12, 2021 at 11:16 AM Post #2,356 of 2,722
It’s interesting if you approach BAs with a smidge of expected bias. Meaning when do you take it upon yourself to be such inclined?

The fact that I primarily listen to BA IEMs. But I do wonder what all DD will do? The IER-Z1R is 2DD and 1BA. Still I don’t approach it, looking for trouble? I say all this as I use the qdc Anole V3 every day at the gym. Not inside the gym but while waiting outside, and today of all days it seemed metallic? Wild? Obviously that trait is far from being a reality in the Dmagic I would guess?

Also I’m listening to 20 BAs at the very moment but hear no metallic tone? I mean maybe it’s there, but I’m not focused on it. This seems to be the redeeming factor in the Dmagic?

I do have preconceived biases when it comes to ba or dd iems. They don’t always hold true, but generally I do find this approach somewhat reliable. BAs usually sound faster to me with greater upper frequency extension and better micro dynamics, and for music that works best with these qualities, I thoroughly enjoy my ba collection. I bought the Dmagic because of its unique driver design (every iem purchase I make is based on whether I feel there will be enough of a difference so there is little sonic redundancy in my collection).

One consistent quality of my dd collection is I perceive a more organic nature in reproduction. What do I mean by this? When I listen to the Dmagic, as an example, the music has a living, breathing quality that can be enrapturing. The bass frequencies have greater texture, better scale, less one-note sounding. In my mind, the bass frequencies are the foundation of music reproduction, so if this area of the spectrum is not reproduced right, it throws off the entire spectrum.

Just one man’s thought on the complex process of listening to an iem and using descriptive language to describe what I’m hearing. I do believe the vocabulary we audiophiles use can sometimes be misleading since we all have different sensitivities and often different understandings as to what all these descriptive terms really mean. I’m still relatively new to high end iems, so I’m learning as I gain more experience. ✌️
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 12:40 PM Post #2,357 of 2,722
You don’t help me my friend… I promised to my self don’t buy midtier again and I’m waiting Crassi😅
 
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Oct 12, 2021 at 1:39 PM Post #2,358 of 2,722
I do have preconceived biases when it comes to ba or dd iems. They don’t always hold true, but generally I do find this approach somewhat reliable. BAs usually sound faster to me with greater upper frequency extension and better micro dynamics, and for music that works best with these qualities, I thoroughly enjoy my ba collection. I bought the Dmagic because of its unique driver design (every iem purchase I make is based on whether I feel there will be enough of a difference so there is little sonic redundancy in my collection).

One consistent quality of my dd collection is I perceive a more organic nature in reproduction. What do I mean by this? When I listen to the Dmagic, as an example, the music has a living, breathing quality that can be enrapturing. The bass frequencies have greater texture, better scale, less one-note sounding. In my mind, the bass frequencies are the foundation of music reproduction, so if this area of the spectrum is not reproduced right, it throws off the entire spectrum.

Just one man’s thought on the complex process of listening to an iem and using descriptive language to describe what I’m hearing. I do believe the vocabulary we audiophiles use can sometimes be misleading since we all have different sensitivities and often different understandings as to what all these descriptive terms really mean. I’m still relatively new to high end iems, so I’m learning as I gain more experience. ✌️
I also like BA a lot. Especially in the low range .... then I heard Tansio Mirai Land and his DD. I found it very beautiful. Deep bass even if not very controlled as for example (tansio mirai Spark). But then in the Land I found a very full-bodied, harmonic mid and mid-high range with no harshness. Very nice. Is the QDC going in this direction? Because I'm tempted by a low DD. What can you tell me?
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 2:24 PM Post #2,359 of 2,722
I also like BA a lot. Especially in the low range .... then I heard Tansio Mirai Land and his DD. I found it very beautiful. Deep bass even if not very controlled as for example (tansio mirai Spark). But then in the Land I found a very full-bodied, harmonic mid and mid-high range with no harshness. Very nice. Is the QDC going in this direction? Because I'm tempted by a low DD. What can you tell me?
Buy a Land, look at the market here, maybe you’ll find it🤣😉😇
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 5:00 PM Post #2,362 of 2,722
Yes, I saw. In the market there is someone who sells it. And she thinks she only came back to him out of pure luck ...
Dunno Her🙃
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 6:45 PM Post #2,363 of 2,722
I also like BA a lot. Especially in the low range .... then I heard Tansio Mirai Land and his DD. I found it very beautiful. Deep bass even if not very controlled as for example (tansio mirai Spark). But then in the Land I found a very full-bodied, harmonic mid and mid-high range with no harshness. Very nice. Is the QDC going in this direction? Because I'm tempted by a low DD. What can you tell me?

I have not heard the Land, but yes, your description of it mirrors the Dmagic. No harshness at all to my ears. I was listening last night and the bass on the Dmagic has improved further with now about 150 hours or so on it. Big sounding bass now with tight articulation. I’m completely happy with this purchase!
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 11:06 PM Post #2,364 of 2,722
I have not heard the Land, but yes, your description of it mirrors the Dmagic. No harshness at all to my ears. I was listening last night and the bass on the Dmagic has improved further with now about 150 hours or so on it. Big sounding bass now with tight articulation. I’m completely happy with this purchase!
I don't know how long it still has to play over 150 hours .... and maybe it still has to go. I have read that the DMagic sound stays a bit closed and is not very open or three dimensional, but a bit intimate. Do you also find that this is the case?
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 11:47 PM Post #2,365 of 2,722
I don't know how long it still has to play over 150 hours .... and maybe it still has to go. I have read that the DMagic sound stays a bit closed and is not very open or three dimensional, but a bit intimate. Do you also find that this is the case?

yes, I would mostly agree with that. The width is actually very good, out to the ears, but the depth in front is shallow and the height is average. This is not the iem to get if technicalities are important, rather, it’s the tone that makes the Dmagic a special listen, in my view.
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 11:51 PM Post #2,366 of 2,722
yes, I would mostly agree with that. The width is actually very good, out to the ears, but the depth in front is shallow and the height is average. This is not the iem to get if technicalities are important, rather, it’s the tone that makes the Dmagic a special listen, in my view.
could you try to explain better what you mean when you say "This is not the iem to get if technicalities are important, rather, it's the tone that makes the Dmagic a special listen, in my view" .....
Thanks
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 11:52 PM Post #2,367 of 2,722
yes, I would mostly agree with that. The width is actually very good, out to the ears, but the depth in front is shallow and the height is average. This is not the iem to get if technicalities are important, rather, it’s the tone that makes the Dmagic a special listen, in my view.

Can you please buy the UM 3DT and compare with the DMagic, so I can know if the upgrade from one 3 DD IEM to another is worth it? :L3000:
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 11:55 PM Post #2,368 of 2,722
Why don’t you just have him mail you his Dmagic to keep, that would be easier?
Can you please buy the UM 3DT and compare with the DMagic, so I can know if the upgrade from one 3 DD IEM to another is worth it? :L3000:
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 11:57 PM Post #2,369 of 2,722
could you try to explain better what you mean when you say "This is not the iem to get if technicalities are important, rather, it's the tone that makes the Dmagic a special listen, in my view" .....
Thanks

ok, I probably should have written staging instead of technicalities—my bad—since this is one aspect of the Dmagic which is merely average. It’s really the tone of the Dmagic that enthralls me, and makes me want to listen for longer periods of time.
 
Oct 13, 2021 at 12:01 AM Post #2,370 of 2,722
Can you please buy the UM 3DT and compare with the DMagic, so I can know if the upgrade from one 3 DD IEM to another is worth it? :L3000:

That is a very unusual request and got me laughing a bit, no offense intended. I’m only interested in more expensive iems unless like the JVC I own it for sentimental value. ✌️
 

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