Thanks for all helpful replies, really appreciates it.
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Originally Posted by Acix
The GMP 250 are great, but they will need some amp (minimum a nice sound card).
With the GMP 8.35 you can start with out any amp, they are 35 ohm.
Here more info: The German Maestro GMP 8.35 D Monitor in the studio... serious about audio, INDEED!!
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I couldn't find either one of those headphones you suggested in any swedish store.
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Originally Posted by Tiemen
As for the MDR-XB 700, see for example:
SONY MDR-XB700 HEADPHONES, any reviews?
A Headphone Worth Checking out under $100 : Sony MDR-XB700
As for the impedance, the sensitivity is more important for how loud a headphone sounds.
The higher the sensitivity, the louder they will sound without an amp.
As for the K272, K271, K271 mk1I, they all sound the same. It's not that simple to qualify a headphone as a studio one, or a hifi one. I have several headphones who are meant for studio use, but I enjoy them throughout on my home rig.
The K271/2 are good for listening pleasure, but I found them a little too dull. Not toe-tapping enough. The bass wasn't a problem for me though. I'm not a basshead.
As for the HD380, see:
Sennheiser HD 380 Pro (rather large photos inside)
HD380 vs. HD280
The Denon D1001 are on-ear.
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Ah, I've only been looking on the impedance until now. Thank you, I've learnt something.
Okay, AKG is just making the impression of "a new headphone" by changing sub-models...
Would you say the AH-D1001 is "Toe-tapping" and more "fun" than the K27x? I don't know if I'm a "basshead" (a person that enjoy bass alot I guess?) or not since I don't have that much experience with headphones yet but I suppose I don't want too much but neither too weak bass.
The "HD380 vs. HD280" link didn't work for me.
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Originally Posted by Acix
Yes, the K271 are great for rock or classic, but not much for electronic or more bassy music, overall they are balanced. I prefer the the GMP 8.35 and they even can be mod by different GMP pads, I even can make they sound more balanced then the K 271 with more bass.
lol, the only thing that I didn't try is the K-271 with the GMP pads, maybe here will be a big surprise...
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Ok, I'd like my headphones to be good overall even though I listen mostly to rock.
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Originally Posted by joze7205
Hi!
I own a pair of K271S and a pair of ATH-M50.
The K271S is a great headphone that has gotten great reviews in Sweden. (See CarlssonPlanet.com • Rekommenderad elektronik or search for K271 at www.faktiskt.se). For acoustic music they are great. Very detailed. They are considered bass-shy. I'm not shure about if their bass-response is too weak, but they certainly have less bass than most other headphones. (Most headphones have a bit "exaggerated" bass to compensate for the bass impact you can feel with speakers). I you don't have enough seal the bass gets weaker (if you use glasses for instance). They have low impedance but have low sensitivity, meaning that they need a good, wall-powered, amp that can supply a lot of current. They probably won't sound that good directly out of your soundcard or your DAP (I doubt that FiiO E5 would be powerful enough for these cans), but with a good amp they really shine (unless you are a basshead). They are also not very portable.
My latest headphone is a pair of ATH-M50. They go for about 1700 SEK. They are not as detailed and refined as the K271S, but they are less amp dependant and actually sounds pretty good out of my DAP. They have a stronger bass and might suit your kind of music better. They are foldable. So if you can stretch your budget a little bit, I would recommend these.
The Sennheiser HD-25 is also quite good - about the same character as the as the M50 (from what I remember). They will sound good right out of your DAP (don't get fooled by their rated impedance at 70 Ohm). They are more portable, but they rests on your ear and are more expensive. The HD-25, HD-25-i II, HD-25 II are basically the same headphones, just different earpads and cables. The HD-25-13 are 600 ohms. From what I have read, the SP models are quite different and are not as good as the others.
I've also heard the Sennheiser HD-280 (very briefly). My impressions were that their isolation and comfort were very good, but that they were not in the same league as the above cans.
All of these are marketed as studio cans, but are excellent for hifi-listening. You should be able to listen to all of these in music stores in Stockholm (Jam, Musikbörsen, 4Sound,...).
I once bought the HD-200, but returned them very shortly. Thin and grainy sound with no isolation.
In short, go for the M50!
PS: You can find the sensitivity numbers for headphones at Prisjakt - Den nya generationens prisjämförelser.
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Nice to see a swedish person on head-fi.
I don't know if I know raise my budget that much (I started with a budget at 1000 SEK), but I do see that the M50 is being sold at a store called "IntroPris" for 1495 SEK which I could agree on. Do you think they are anything to trust? The comments on Prisjakt doesn't seem to be very good (around 5/10 stars) though. I don't want to be scammed.
Regarding the K27x's, it feels like they are one level beyond the other headphones with an amp which I don't have. Which means I will buy a great headphone but won't use even close to it's full potential. Am I right?
It seems the K172 HD is the same as the K272 HD except the design. They've got exactly the same impedance and sensitivity, similar frequencies and price doesn't differ much. I mailed AKG asking if this was true but haven't gotten answered yet.
HD-25 & Denon AH-D1001 are in the same group (price- and designwise) but it feels like the Denon is slightly better. (?)
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Originally Posted by D4R
Tiemen and Acix have the AKGs covered. I'll talk more about the Denon...and a little of the 271.
The 1001 is supposed to be around the ear, but for some the ear cup is not big or deep enough, so it's on-ear for those users. It is around the ear for me since I seem to have the right sized ears for the cups. The headphone itself is super comfortable to wear on the head. More so than the AKG271mkII with velour pads. The difference I notice is from the way it clamps on the head vs the AKG. The steel bands that make up the AKGs headband always return to their original form even after leaving stretched over some books for weeks on end. The Denon has very very little clamping force compared to the AKG. I also find the ear pads they use are very soft. They easily give when poked. Not so with the velour pads on the AKG271. The Denon pads are letherette/plether--I'm not sure what exactly.
Right out of the box the Denon is bright sounding, the low bass impact is there but subdued. After a week of constant use it mellows out. The treble smoothens out and is no longer in your face. The bass begins to complement the treble and mids and doesn't overpower them. The low bass is present and gives a nice kick. But again, doesn't really try to overwhelm the other frequencies like the AKG518dj's mid bass does. The 1001 is a very non-fatiguing phone to listen to (like the 271). You can listen for hours on end--rock,techno,jazz,live concerts--haven't had an issue yet. It doesn't need an amp to sound good straight out of an iPod.
1001's soundstage is nice and wide...but i prefer the AKG271's seemingly larger soundstage. Could be because of the larger cup size and distance to ear. The only issue I have with the 271 is that it sometimes sounds not quite right with certain vocals and instruments. I have yet to experience that with the Denon. I figure one of the other threads or members can better explain this or it's just me.
Did I mention they were super comfortable?
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You opened my eyes for these headphones. They seem to be superior in everything compared to the other ones except two things:
- For gaming, would these work?
- Size of the earcups, they look like on-ears.
Are you sure they are around-ear?
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Originally Posted by DENON Homepage
AH-D1001: On-Ear Stereo Headphones
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That was taken from
Denon's homepage.
Other than that, they seem amazing. They look stylish, seem portable, have an extremely wide frequency response (8 - 37,000 Hz), low impedance & high sensitivity, will sound good without external amplifier etc etc.
How about the quality? Is DENON known of making good headphones? I've noticed they haven't got many 'cheap' (or what most people consider cheap) cans but quite a few in the high-end section (which design-wise looks amazing).
OFF TOPIC: I've noticed that Sennheiser is the opposite from DENON: loads of low-midrange headphones and few a the top.
I'd like it if someone could confirm if there's a cloth cord on the AH-D1001 like it is on the AH-D2000?
http://www.minhembio.com/bilder/hq/?pic_id=316841.jpg
I love the quality feeling of those cords.
Also regarding isolation. On-ear's usually leak a little bit more sound out than around-ear does. But they're still closed-back design. But do they leak more than say, the HD555 or HD595?
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Originally Posted by D4R
Hey that's a decent set of cans. The Denon D1001 does beat it hands down and smacks it silly across the floor. It's missing something at the top and low end but it does sound good! It's a warm sounding phone but it has a nice thump to it and built tough with replaceable parts. If I hadn't seen the Denon at the local audio shop, I would still be using that over the AKG271mkII for the portability. It's a massive hassle to lug around the 271. The HD 25 sp sounds good without an amp. I can damage it or lose it and I don't have to worry too much about the investment.
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So you're saying DENON AH-D1001 is better than Sennheiser HD-25 in your opinion? Sorry if I didn't fully understand you.
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It feels like the most interesting can right now is the
DENON AH-D1001K.
If you think I'm doing wrong decision with excluding the other cans PLEASE comment and tell me so. I'm going to go test a few headphones (the ones I can test) tomorrow I think but not buy anything.
Kind Regards,
Force.
