PS Audio Stellar Powerplant 3
Aug 31, 2022 at 7:23 PM Post #46 of 61
Have found that Shunyata Research power cables are not suitable for connecting P12 Power Plant to the wall. Too much filtering/silver content in V2 models of Shunyata cables robs the natural warmth of the P12. Tried both the Sigma NR V2 and the more reasonably-priced Delta NR V2. Neither was a good match.

Shunyata actually make power cables specifically for between the wall and your power conditioner/regenerator. The XC series:

Reference XC cables are designed specifically to optimize the performance of Shunyata Research power conditioners. The Delta XC cables eschew noise reduction features in favor of enhanced DTCD dynamic transient current delivery

I thought about getting the Delta XC for my PP3 but for less than 1/3 the price I bought three Aliexpress Odin knock-offs which are really quite impressive for the money.

Might still get the Delta one day but not for a while as there's more meaningful upgrades I can make for the same money.
 
Aug 31, 2022 at 7:56 PM Post #47 of 61
Shunyata actually make power cables specifically for between the wall and your power conditioner/regenerator. The XC series:



I thought about getting the Delta XC for my PP3 but for less than 1/3 the price I bought three Aliexpress Odin knock-offs which are really quite impressive for the money.

Might still get the Delta one day but not for a while as there's more meaningful upgrades I can make for the same money.
I am aware of the XC series, but I wanted some power conditioning thrown in with the (very expensive) cable options Shunyata had available. Other cables I’ve tried that are intended for high current delivery but don‘t do any power conditioning, like PS Audio’s own AC10 and AC12 cables, are somewhat underwhelming with the Power Plant 12 as well.

But you may be right, maybe the XC series are the ticket. I shouldn’t dismiss them without hearing them first.
 
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Jan 22, 2023 at 8:18 AM Post #48 of 61
X-posting from another thread, trying to figure something out about the Power plant.

I'm wondering if it would be possible to use a Power Plant and its remote to power on/off a bunch of gear, including a tube amp. I am planning to put my components in a hard to reach place because of heat and other issues and if I could use the Powerplant remote's on/off so I would never have to manually turn on and off each component that would be awesome.

But I also want to avoid harming my gear, I've read somewhere that one should always power on and off each component individually from their own switches, especially tube amps.

What do you guys think?
 
Jan 25, 2023 at 12:44 AM Post #49 of 61
X-posting from another thread, trying to figure something out about the Power plant.

I'm wondering if it would be possible to use a Power Plant and its remote to power on/off a bunch of gear, including a tube amp. I am planning to put my components in a hard to reach place because of heat and other issues and if I could use the Powerplant remote's on/off so I would never have to manually turn on and off each component that would be awesome.

But I also want to avoid harming my gear, I've read somewhere that one should always power on and off each component individually from their own switches, especially tube amps.

What do you guys think?
This prompted me to try the remote on my P3. I’d never tried. I had thought the on button on the front was a switch and didn’t expect the remote to turn it on, but it does. So seems like it would work. I dunno if I’d use it that way with audio gear. I’ve got some tube amps that have built in protections for sudden power off (it’s noted in the service manual), but who knows how well your gear will take it. You could ask the manufacturer. On the higher PowerPlant models I believe you can even configure a start up sequence with separate delays to power on for the separate zones. I’ve seen posts about that, but never tried it with my P15.
 
Jan 25, 2023 at 2:00 AM Post #50 of 61
This prompted me to try the remote on my P3. I’d never tried. I had thought the on button on the front was a switch and didn’t expect the remote to turn it on, but it does. So seems like it would work. I dunno if I’d use it that way with audio gear. I’ve got some tube amps that have built in protections for sudden power off (it’s noted in the service manual), but who knows how well your gear will take it. You could ask the manufacturer. On the higher PowerPlant models I believe you can even configure a start up sequence with separate delays to power on for the separate zones. I’ve seen posts about that, but never tried it with my P15.
Similar experience with my P3. I don't use it the way @tdx describes above and instead leave it on 95% of the time. But... the remote does seem to work well and don't know of a technical reason one couldn't use it that way to turn everything on and off except for the usual caveats regarding frequently turning off/on class A and tube gear.
 
Jan 25, 2023 at 7:06 AM Post #51 of 61
Thanks for checking! I’ll reach out to viva and ask them.
 
Jan 30, 2023 at 9:09 AM Post #52 of 61
I've read somewhere that one should always power on and off each component individually from their own switches, especially tube amps.

That's true, I wouldn't turn off a power conditioner before turning off i.e. a power amp connected to it, but maybe that PS Audio device can allow that safely? I'd ask the manufacturer!
 
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Jul 22, 2023 at 3:26 PM Post #54 of 61
They increased the price of the power plant stellar 3. It's 3k now. Glad I bought it brand new 2 years ago for 2.2k

The cost of manufacturing went significantly up in recent two years, so that price increase isn't surprising really. On the upside, you have a nice power conditioner that will serve you for years to come, which is good :)
 
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Jul 22, 2023 at 3:41 PM Post #55 of 61
They increased the price of the power plant stellar 3. It's 3k now. Glad I bought it brand new 2 years ago for 2.2k. At the 3k price point, I think there could be better alternatives.
It unfortunately has always been 3k in europe.
Got Mine used for 1800 back then
 
Jul 22, 2023 at 3:52 PM Post #56 of 61
The cost of manufacturing went significantly up in recent two years, so that price increase isn't surprising really. On the upside, you have a nice power conditioner that will serve you for years to come, which is good :)
It's definitely a nice power conditioner. The pp3 imparts a warmer, more rounded, smooth sound. I have it powering my desktop pc through high current. I have all of my other components: 2 linear power supplies, amplifier, and dac connected to the puritan psm156. The psm lowers the noise floor noticeably more than the power plant and improves the sound (dynamics, detail retrieval, etc) without any coloration. I had my desktop pc connected to the psm for months and it sounded glorious, but started to notice a mechanical hum coming from my amplifier. When I shutdown my computer, the hum went away. The hum was not audible through the speakers, it was coming from the transformer. When I removed my desktop pc from the psm156 and connected it to the other wall with a ifi power station, 99% of the noise disappeared, but the sound quality in my opinion lowered, more fuzz and haze around notes, digital glare in the midrange etc. So I decided to plug my pc to the stellar pp3 and 50-60% of the noise was gone from the transformer. While the sound quality did not drastically drop, it did change slightly. Just a tad less airy and more rounded from the ppstellar3. The power plant 3 is directly under the psm156, stacked. When I get home tonight, I'll unstack the two power conditioners and see if I can reduce the hum even more. Considering getting another puritan psm156 solely to connect to my desktop pc.
 
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Apr 21, 2024 at 4:02 AM Post #58 of 61
greetings

can the stellar poweplant 3 , power my holo audio bliss + holo spring 3 + holo red, and provide enough power to drive those to same performance as from directly the wall
 
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Apr 21, 2024 at 5:12 AM Post #59 of 61
greetings

can the stellar poweplant 3 , power my holo audio bliss + holo spring 3 + holo red, and provide enough power to drive those to same performance as from directly the wall
Yes it can.

~300W in Regenerator Mode or ~900W in filter mode
 
Apr 21, 2024 at 5:19 AM Post #60 of 61
Yes it can.

~300W in Regenerator Mode or ~900W in filter mode
can u share a bit about using ur dac and amp with and without pp3

the main reason for me to consider such thing, is to maintain consistency of playback during different times of the day and night

I am happy with how my gear sounds out the wall, but I noticed music is more engaging at night time than day time
 

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