[mralexosborn]

460 was made to compete with the 5770 (which I have *sigh*) and it blows it out of the water. The GTX465 was made to compete with the 5830. 
The GTX series tessellates better than all the ATI cards. That is a fact. So if you want a card that will be relevant in the future get the GTX460.

 

[stang]

5850 is a great pick I think. I am an Intel fanboy, but couldn't care less about the graphics cards. I mean, I love looking at the new ones and how they perform in games, at overclocking etc, but I am not an ATi nor Nvidia fanboy. ATI's cards run cooler, quieter (generally) and have MUCH better price/performance ratio than nvidia's cards. I have had my 5850 for ages now (several months or so) and it is still doing me fine, no need to upgrade as of yet. I am glad I went from three gtx 285 down to one 5850. I was able to upgrade my headphone setup and I can still max out any game I want and have good fps.

 

[mralexosborn]

I am not a fanboy of any of them. The GTX line performs better than their ATI competitors. 

 

[stang]

But then you have to factor in heat, noise, cost etc. Yes you can go liquid cooling, but you wouldn't have to if you had an ATi card (5850 anyway...). Nvidia for performance, ATi for bang for buck. 

 

[mralexosborn]

I agree 100 percent with you. But I would rather go with performance since it is not that much more.

 

[Seaside]

Guys, I have questions.
 
The money is kinda tight and we need two computers,
Just can't stand our old computers any longer. They're built in 2003 and 2004, too slow and tiny problems pops up every month.
 
I think there are 3 options for me.
 
1, AMD phenom II and 5850
 
2, i5 750 and 5770
 
3. i7 930 and 5850
 
Other parts like ODD will be taken from old systems.
 
The question is,
 
- what you guys think about option 1 and 2? which is better?
- How much option 3 will better than option 2 game performace wise? Worth to pay the difference in cost?
 
Thanks.

 

[mralexosborn]

Option 3 definitely! Best processor and graphics card!
 
The Core i7 chips preform beautifully, totally worth the price! But option 2 is still good. The i5 750 is a beast and the 5770 play most games on high (no AA). I have the 5770.
 
AMD isn't worth it. I have the AMD Athlon II X4 630. It is only great because I got it for $140 including the motherboard. 

 

[Endless]

Quote:

Guys, I have questions.
 
The money is kinda tight and we need two computers,
Just can't stand our old computers any longer. They're built in 2003 and 2004, too slow and tiny problems pops up every month.
 
I think there are 3 options for me.
 
1, AMD phenom II and 5850
 
2, i5 750 and 5770
 
3. i7 930 and 5850
 
Other parts like ODD will be taken from old systems.
 
The question is,
 
- what you guys think about option 1 and 2? which is better?
- How much option 3 will better than option 2 game performace wise? Worth to pay the difference in cost?
 
Thanks.

 
Option 3. BY FAR. The i7 930's performance is WAYY better than option 2 by light years. If you live near a microcenter, you can get an i7 930 for 200 dollars only, as opposed to 280 or 290 on Amazon or Neweggs. Best 200 dollars I've spent on electronics, EVER.
 
Keep in mind that the i7 930 uses DDR3 ram. This means that you will have to invest in a better motherboard that can handle an i7 processor as well as DDR3 ram to efficiently use the processor. Another 300 - 400 down the drain...
 
If the money issue is a bit.. excessive, then do not get the 5850 until you have the money to spend. Get a budget level video card and wait for the 5850 to drop. I bought mines in full for 300, now it's 250? Sobs. T_T
 

 

[revolink24]

I honestly don't think the performance is a great enough increase the cost. What resolution is your monitor? If it's 1680x1050 or lower, you should absolutely be fine with a 5770. I use a Phenom II X6, which is a great processor, but you really can't go wrong with any reasonably priced processor these days, from Intel or AMD. I'm pretty happy with my current setup. I would say just get the Phenom II and a 5770, but thats just my opinion... Another good option would be the i7 860 and a 5770. The reason for the 860 is that it is basically a 930 for the 1156 socket, where motherboards and RAM are much cheaper.

 

[Endless]

Quote:

I honestly don't think the performance is a great enough increase the cost. What resolution is your monitor? If it's 1680x1050 or lower, you should absolutely be fine with a 5770. I use a Phenom II X6, which is a great processor, but you really can't go wrong with any reasonably priced processor these days, from Intel or AMD. I'm pretty happy with my current setup. I would say just get the Phenom II and a 5770, but thats just my opinion... Another good option would be the i7 860 and a 5770. The reason for the 860 is that it is basically a 930 for the 1156 socket, where motherboards and RAM are much cheaper.

 
AGREED on the i7 860. However, there is little room for future upgrades because DDR3 and 1156 sockets are the future. However, there is little difference in performance between the i7 860 and the i7 930, and there ARE tests that prove that the i7 860 do better than the i7 930 on some applications. Either way, you will be happy with your upgrade.

 

 

[mattering]

I think socket 1366 is the future but i heard intel is gonna make a new socket for sandy bridge? or am i wrong?

 

[manaox2]

Quote:

I think socket 1366 is the future but i heard intel is gonna make a new socket for sandy bridge? or am i wrong?

I thought socket 1366 was the future for quite a while when I bought my mobo, but your right. The six to eight core variety with the new sockets will not be likely to launch until late 2011 though. There will be an 1155 and 2011 socket version of these, 1155 sockets are not backwards compatible with 1156.
 
Differences are as quoted by a commentor:
(1) a few new instruction sets, the most notable being AVX, that will still require software to be written to take advantage of them-probably around the two-year timeframe for AVX usage to become anything more than a novelty
(2) native SATA 6Gb support, as opposed to a third party onboard controller chip.
(3) Upgraded DMI (4 lanes PCI-E v2.0 for "Southbridge" duties)
The new chipset retains the dual channel DDR3-1333 (official support) and sixteen lanes of PCI-E 2.0 that the P55 enjoys. 
 
I agree with the comments assessment, I wouldn't bother with an upgrade. Grab a new RAID controller, don't worry about quad channel RAM with the prices of triple channel already, and still be prepared well into the future. Upgrade when the 22nm chips and associated hardware becomes affordable, its pretty darn hard to max out the quad core i7 abilities for the average user already.
 
From techspot:
Quote:

Sandy Bridge chips will also require a brand new socket, LGA 1155 and later on LGA 2011 for six and eight core variants, neither of which will be backwards compatible with older CPUs. Expected to launch later this year.

 

[Seaside]

 
Yeah, socket change and incompatibilites b/w sockets is something that bothers me.
 
Intel's new sandibridge will use 1155 and it won't be compatible with 1156. It is typical intel stuff. AMD taped out bulldozer core CPU few days ago. If it is AM3 compatible or fast enough to compete i7 of the same speed, it could be a worthy consideration though, there's absolutely no info available at this moment. It seems like things will stay that way till the end of this year, and some of current platform will be phased out soon due to the release of new cores.
 
One of my computer has AGP slot, thus, not upgradable. The other is socket 939, which is obsoleted. That happened within 6 months after the purchase. It really sucked. I don't want something like that happening to me again though, what can I do about it? You're gonna buy computer when you need it.
 
After reading opinions above, I am kind of leaning towards i5 + 5850 now.
 
Thanks guys for responses.

 

[N17]

Intel Core i7 930 @3.5 gig
6gig DDR3 1600-G.skill
2.5tb of harddrives
ATI 5850
Xonar Essence STX
 
2x 24" dell monitors
Great for browsing the internet

 
2010 13" Macbook Pro 

 

[mralexosborn]

Wow. I like it. Good job.