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[KcMsterpce]

I have the Thermalright bracket on my 13700k build. Don't know if it makes a difference, since I switched out my 12700k at the same time I put the bracket in.
I had pretty decent temps with the 12700k already. Most likely, my MSI board had decent contact already. But it's still good to have, and it's an easy way to eliminate a potential weak link in the cooling process.
As for paste "drying up", yeah that will happen. But the lifespan is usually 5+ years. I consider it good practice to replace the paste on your CPU every 3 years or so anyway.

 

[SilverEars]

I have the Thermalright bracket on my 13700k build. Don't know if it makes a difference, since I switched out my 12700k at the same time I put the bracket in.
I had pretty decent temps with the 12700k already. Most likely, my MSI board had decent contact already. But it's still good to have, and it's an easy way to eliminate a potential weak link in the cooling process.
As for paste "drying up", yeah that will happen. But the lifespan is usually 5+ years. I consider it good practice to replace the paste on your CPU every 3 years or so anyway.

I guess for most people, it's past the time they'd likely upgrade or get a new computer.

 

[KcMsterpce]

I guess for most people, it's past the time they'd likely upgrade or get a new computer.

Yeah, that's kinda the thing. If I was to talk to someone about specifics for their build, and they said "I want it to work for me for at least 8 years, with no problems" - well, I'd consider how long the thermal paste should last.
This kind of goes back to a laptop I bought back in... 2016. It was a Sager laptop, with a DESKTOP CPU i7-6700k processor, and 2x GTX 1070s in SLI. When I got it, I put IC Diamond Thermal Compound on it, because I thought "Well, this should last a while". - I was thinking at least 5 years.
I gave that laptop to a co-worker 1.5 years ago, and HE gave it to a friend. That laptop is still working, and the new owner plays games with his son.
But when I gave that monster of a laptop to my co-worker, I said "Well, I was going to re-apply some paste before giving it away, because it's been several years since I did it." He said he was going to do it before he gave it away. But then, he opened the chassis up and said "Ehhh, looks like a lot of work. I just mailed it to him instead."
It STILL works.
For something like that - in which the device isn't going to be maintained for several years - that is where I will look into the paste with the best longevity.
Most of the time, though, I think a user's expected lifespan of the CPU will be within 5 years.
So... <shrug>
A little extra money for the comfort of longevity is not a bad thing. And it CAN make a difference in the right circumstances.
I tweak my stuff so often though, that 2 years is pretty long of a life for my build before I start digging into it again.

 

[dougms3]

I have the Thermalright bracket on my 13700k build. Don't know if it makes a difference, since I switched out my 12700k at the same time I put the bracket in.
I had pretty decent temps with the 12700k already. Most likely, my MSI board had decent contact already. But it's still good to have, and it's an easy way to eliminate a potential weak link in the cooling process.
As for paste "drying up", yeah that will happen. But the lifespan is usually 5+ years. I consider it good practice to replace the paste on your CPU every 3 years or so anyway.

It still functions somewhat after drying up.

But the concern is the conductive paste flakes off everywhere. For you and I, its not a problem but I build most of these workstations for businesses or offices where they will use it for 7-8 years or until it becomes too slow and needs to be replaced. Usually its sooner than that though, some of these people, I tell them not to shove it into a corner and block the ventilation. It needs air to cool, but I get this response most of the time, "Its fine, its been working ok for years like that". I check the temp on them and some of them are at 90 degrees C, probably been running like that for years.

One dude, literally blew cigarette smoke into the case because he said it helps to filter the smoke. OMG the tar buildup on the fans and components. He wanted me to "fix" it.

Anyway, just pointing out the longevity on the non-conductive pastes like thermal grizzly is what I like to use because I'm not going to reapply thermal paste on a 3-4 year old computer unleses someone is paying me.

If I were gaming then I'd use the conductive pastes as they tend to be more effective with heat dissipation even though they dont last as long but I don't play games anymore so I prefer to use the longer lasting paste.

 

[SilverEars]

Yeah, that's kinda the thing. If I was to talk to someone about specifics for their build, and they said "I want it to work for me for at least 8 years, with no problems" - well, I'd consider how long the thermal paste should last.
This kind of goes back to a laptop I bought back in... 2016. It was a Sager laptop, with a DESKTOP CPU i7-6700k processor, and 2x GTX 1070s in SLI. When I got it, I put IC Diamond Thermal Compound on it, because I thought "Well, this should last a while". - I was thinking at least 5 years.
I gave that laptop to a co-worker 1.5 years ago, and HE gave it to a friend. That laptop is still working, and the new owner plays games with his son.
But when I gave that monster of a laptop to my co-worker, I said "Well, I was going to re-apply some paste before giving it away, because it's been several years since I did it." He said he was going to do it before he gave it away. But then, he opened the chassis up and said "Ehhh, looks like a lot of work. I just mailed it to him instead."
It STILL works.
For something like that - in which the device isn't going to be maintained for several years - that is where I will look into the paste with the best longevity.
Most of the time, though, I think a user's expected lifespan of the CPU will be within 5 years.
So... <shrug>
A little extra money for the comfort of longevity is not a bad thing. And it CAN make a difference in the right circumstances.
I tweak my stuff so often though, that 2 years is pretty long of a life for my build before I start digging into it again.

The thing is, is there any proof out there that some of these supposedly longer lasting like Kingpin do indeed last that duration. I looked up what people say, and people tend to say that the higher performing ones tend to dry up faster. However, there maybe more than 2-3C difference. We need to see a well comparison study to know for sure up to much delta improvement is possible. And at what cost, and is this cost worth it. I like how Gamer Nexus handles these since he considers cost of the product as well, and tries to show you better values.

If anybody has a link to a comparision study, please provide it, so I can see for myself. If not solid proof, I will just go with MX-4.

I probably fit that catagory of people that will likely get a new computer within 5 years max. I don't see my 12GB VRAM 4070TI keep me gaming on that card much longer than that.

But, also at the same time, I hate disassembling PCs, because I'm afraid something will go wrong. So, I'd rather save the hassle, and rather spend the extra $10 on Kingpin paste. However, the biggest issue is, where is the proof it will last that much longer?! Jay's word? I need more than that.

Anything from Gamer Nexus? He seems to do scientific studies, so I trust him a lot more.

After delving deep into PC building, I start to understand how silly Linus is with his vids. His is sponsored! Where is the thermal tests? Doesn't provide actual useful test info like Gamer Nexus. But, I see why he gets the views. It's because his videos are produced to look much more interesting. Gamer Nexus can put you to sleep with his indepth analysis. lol

 

[KcMsterpce]

LTT is for an entirely different audience than the GamersNexus crowd. Regardless of my opinion of him.

 

[SilverEars]

I've been looking around for info on thermal paste, and this came up. With their overpricing of their brackets, and now this. I'm starting to not trust the Grizzly brand.
https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/comments/yv3540/grizzly_kryonaut_thermal_paste_longevity/

It's not about dryness, but the paste thinning out over time due to the temperature moving up and down causing thermal contraction/expansion. So, the liquidy stuff he says thins out quicker. Also, reinforces the above reddit posts about replacing kryonaut annually. I take this back, this dude is the CEO of Thermal Grizzly. I would not take his word on his product. This dude could just spreading info to get people to frequently apply thermal paste.

 

[Lindholdt]

I've been looking around for info on thermal paste, and this came up. With their overpricing of their brackets, and now this. I'm starting to not trust the Grizzly brand.
https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/comments/yv3540/grizzly_kryonaut_thermal_paste_longevity/

It's not about dryness, but the paste thinning out over time due to the temperature moving up and down causing thermal contraction/expansion. So, the liquidy stuff he says thins out quicker. Also, reinforces the above reddit posts about replacing kryonaut annually. I take this back, this dude is the CEO of Thermal Grizzly. I would not take his word on his product. This dude could just spreading info to get people to frequently apply thermal paste.

Roman is not the CEO of Thermal Grizzly, unless something has changed very recently? Where did you get that information?
I also think you are putting waaaay to much thought into the thermal paste thing, tbh.

 

[SilverEars]

Roman is not the CEO of Thermal Grizzly, unless something has changed very recently? Where did you get that information?
I also think you are putting waaaay to much thought into the thermal paste thing, tbh.

https://der8auer.com/about/

For some reason, I got really drawn into investigating thermal pastes. lol My PC's poor cooling caused me to get obsessed with it. Who knows, it's maybe a birth of a new hobby. This is how interests starts out.

 

[Lindholdt]

Thanks, did not know he was CEO now

 

[SilverEars]

Thanks, did not know he was CEO now

Right, it was founded by a different guy.

I guess it's not that significant of a difference between pastes. Few Cs according to this guy's test. How much margin of error can there be? The take away is that you will not see the level of temps you get on Cinebench when gaming, however, I have seen certain games push CPU temps high like, "The Lies of P." I saw my CPU temp reach 100C max, due to not the best cooling. Even though this guy means in general, there can be games that push CPU temp up to dangerous maximum level if the cooling isn't top-tier. So, this is system dependent, varying level of cooling performances. It will happen especially in laptops due to poor cooling.

This test seems much more legit, and confirms what @KcMsterpce originally stated regarding 2-3C difference between best to not best. Also, supports that liquidy stuff dries out quickly (Looking at you Thermal Grizzly!). This means that the highly viscus MX-4 will last longer than the most expensive Thermal Grizzly, which will dry out quick. And given there is not a significant difference in temp, and Grizzly will lose it's effectiveness over time if dries out quickly, then it's better to go with high viscosity MX-4 in the long term. You save money on the process as well, so it's generally a win. I hope I'm done here since I hate myself for getting myself in this rabbit hole.

 

[dougms3]

Not sure if anyone has a microcenter near them but they have a killer bundle deal.

I just built a new systeem with i9-14900k, MSI z790 tomahawk, 64gb gskill for under $1200.

 

[KcMsterpce]

Not sure if anyone has a microcenter near them but they have a killer bundle deal.

I just built a new systeem with i9-14900k, MSI z790 tomahawk, 64gb gskill for under $1200.

Pics or it didn't happen!

 

[dougms3]

Pics or it didn't happen!

Lol I guess those of us in distance of a microcenter are lucky to get deals like this.

Just added liquid cooler, power supply, case and ssd.

 

[KcMsterpce]

I meant, pics of YOUR BUILD. But that's nice to see as well. I hope someone sees it and takes the opportunity to snatch a build.
My nearest MicroCenter is about 7000 miles away, so I won't be stopping over after work to see what's available.