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Aug 4, 2021 at 7:15 AM Post #2,506 of 3,145
this thread sucks when you dont have a computer :astonished:
 
Aug 8, 2021 at 8:23 PM Post #2,508 of 3,145
I've been chasing a computer gremlin for months, and I think I finally caught the sucker.

I've been having random crashes and freezes for months, and nailing down what the cause was has been extremely difficult. My CPU, memory controller, and GPU all overclocked, and my memory had stability issues with its XMP profile, so I threw extra voltage on it to maintain stability.

The crashes were so unpredictable that I couldn't get repeatable results to test variables. The computer would sometimes go days without crashing, or even weeks. So I started just dialing back overclocks one by one, and going days to weeks between changing variables. First I reset my CPU. Still got crashes. Then I reset my GPU. Still got crashes. Then I stepped back my RAM to 3200mhz. Still got crashes. Then I set my RAM to factory 2100mhz or whatever. Still got crashes. Then I turned PSU's eco mode off. And sure enough! Still got crashes!

Then randomly browsing Youtube, I saw a video of a guy just talking about various memory kits. He made mention of the fact that you shouldn't buy 2 2x8GB kits, but rather you should buy a single 4x8GB memory kit, as there's no guarantee the two kits will work together, even if they're exactly the same spec with the same DRAM chips. Kinda felt like a long shot, but I kicked half my RAM out of my system, and it seems to have fixed the issue. Even with default memory voltage I have no issue with stability hitting the rated 3600mhz.

I had first ran into that memory voltage issue running a prime95 torture test. With the default voltage, the various workers would drop out, even with the CPU at stock speed, and by increasing the voltage I got that particular error to stop. My system hadn't crashed or froze, either before or after adjusting voltage, so I figured that wouldn't be a symptom of bad memory. I figured if memory were the issue, BSODs would be the most telling sign.

So long story short, don't buy two separate kits of memory if you're going to fill all your DIMM slots, just buy a single 4x kit. And don't think you're just going to drop in more memory in the future; it doesn't work that way.

So if anyone wants to buy a 2x8GB kit of Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600mhz, lemme know. I'd do $60 shipped (New they're $85).
 
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Aug 9, 2021 at 3:09 AM Post #2,509 of 3,145
Congrats on your diagnosis, must be a great feeling to finally get to the bottom of it. Computers can be frustrating like that. Hence why I've not owned one for a decade. Still would like to build my own one day but a look at pcpartpicker, whilst they make it easy to pick parts that are compatible, I've no idea really what parts I want. For eg, what's the point of i7 when some i5's are better? Why i9 over a top end (and again) i5 isn't best? Why do more threads and cores not matter as much? What's the point if everything can almost be over locked anyway? Lmao
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 3:25 AM Post #2,510 of 3,145
Congrats on your diagnosis, must be a great feeling to finally get to the bottom of it. Computers can be frustrating like that. Hence why I've not owned one for a decade. Still would like to build my own one day but a look at pcpartpicker, whilst they make it easy to pick parts that are compatible, I've no idea really what parts I want. For eg, what's the point of i7 when some i5's are better? Why i9 over a top end (and again) i5 isn't best? Why do more threads and cores not matter as much? What's the point if everything can almost be over locked anyway? Lmao
Honestly right now, the AMD cpus are currently better in most cases than the Intel ones, not only in terms of performance but also in terms of power efficiency. One reason more cores aren't always beneficial is simply due to lack of proper optimization in programs and games to take advantage of higher core counts, this is especially true on older programs and games. Some programs benefit from faster cores moreso than more cores. It really comes down to usage and future proofing in getting more cores. You basically get what's best for your particular usage, what's the best deal at the moment, and how long you plan on keeping the computer without upgrading it.
 
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Aug 9, 2021 at 9:21 AM Post #2,511 of 3,145
I've been chasing a computer gremlin for months, and I think I finally caught the sucker.

I've been having random crashes and freezes for months, and nailing down what the cause was has been extremely difficult. My CPU, memory controller, and GPU all overclocked, and my memory had stability issues with its XMP profile, so I threw extra voltage on it to maintain stability.

The crashes were so unpredictable that I couldn't get repeatable results to test variables. The computer would sometimes go days without crashing, or even weeks. So I started just dialing back overclocks one by one, and going days to weeks between changing variables. First I reset my CPU. Still got crashes. Then I reset my GPU. Still got crashes. Then I stepped back my RAM to 3200mhz. Still got crashes. Then I set my RAM to factory 2100mhz or whatever. Still got crashes. Then I turned PSU's eco mode off. And sure enough! Still got crashes!

Then randomly browsing Youtube, I saw a video of a guy just talking about various memory kits. He made mention of the fact that you shouldn't buy 2 2x8GB kits, but rather you should buy a single 4x8GB memory kit, as there's no guarantee the two kits will work together, even if they're exactly the same spec with the same DRAM chips. Kinda felt like a long shot, but I kicked half my RAM out of my system, and it seems to have fixed the issue. Even with default memory voltage I have no issue with stability hitting the rated 3600mhz.

I had first ran into that memory voltage issue running a prime95 torture test. With the default voltage, the various workers would drop out, even with the CPU at stock speed, and by increasing the voltage I got that particular error to stop. My system hadn't crashed or froze, either before or after adjusting voltage, so I figured that wouldn't be a symptom of bad memory. I figured if memory were the issue, BSODs would be the most telling sign.

So long story short, don't buy two separate kits of memory if you're going to fill all your DIMM slots, just buy a single 4x kit. And don't think you're just going to drop in more memory in the future; it doesn't work that way.

So if anyone wants to buy a 2x8GB kit of Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600mhz, lemme know. I'd do $60 shipped (New they're $85).
You built it yourself? I stopped building my own pc because something always gors wrong like this.
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 4:56 PM Post #2,512 of 3,145
You built it yourself? I stopped building my own pc because something always gors wrong like this.

I did, and that's been my experience, too. But I'm stupid and stubborn so I keep diving back in. Hah.
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 6:43 PM Post #2,514 of 3,145
PC #1 :

i9 9900k stock
RTX 2070 Super
32 Go Ram
1 To NVME SSD + a bunch of old HDD which still works (the oldest is a 12 years old Samsung F1 and it is the fastest)
Motherboard Asus Z-390E Gaming
Pioneer Blu Ray burner (was from PC #2 but I switched cases)

I paid more than 2000 euros for this and finally I stopped playing games...

PS #2 (PC #1 replaced it, but I use it now in my gf appartment) :

i7 3820 stock
GTX 670
16 Go Ram
512 Go SSD
Motherboard Asus ROG Rampage Gene IV (very powerful and good audio)
Asus Blu Ray burner on an external OWC case

I use none for music aside from extracting my CDs. PC #1 is kinda a waste for my use (I play FFXIV sometimes but it runs very well on the 2012 PC too) but well we all do mistakes :p
I wanted to to purchase a RTX 3070 or 3080 to put the 2070S on my PC#2 (I tested it once and it made games run very strongly) but well...they are impossible to purchase at the real retail price (or at least close to) so I gave up and that is what lead me to buy Hifi gear in fact.
 
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Aug 10, 2021 at 12:13 AM Post #2,516 of 3,145
AMD Ryzen 7 3700
32GB DDR4 RAM
1TB PCIe NVME SSD
AMD Radeon VII GPU (sold in May 2021)
AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (06/2021)

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Still sort of miss the VII, pretty sure I got better FPS @ 1440p playing BDO on that GPU. But a friend said "I will pay $1500 right now for that GPU for my mining rig" when I paid $699 for it, kind of hard to pass up :D.
 
Aug 18, 2021 at 10:40 AM Post #2,517 of 3,145
I paid more than 2000 euros for this and finally I stopped playing games...
Does that mean you're thinking of selling PC#1?
 
Aug 18, 2021 at 8:49 PM Post #2,518 of 3,145
Intel i7 8700k (running stock right now)
Corsair h115i (second one, first one died)
TridentZ 32gb ddr4 3200mhz
Samsung 970 pro 512gb boot drive
Asus Strix 2080ti
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv (2016)

Thinking about eventually upgrading CPU and boot drive in a generation or two and swapping out the case for something more airflow friendly. My AIO pump temps tend to run high in this case even with a push pull config on the radiator. I hear a decent amount of fan noise and have been slowly moving from RGB fans to noctuas as they die. I may end up swapping to an air cooler once I upgrade again.
 
Aug 24, 2021 at 4:50 AM Post #2,519 of 3,145
Just upgraded to a Ryzen 5950x. I really missed seeing so many threads in my task manager. Hah.
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I'm super pleased with it. I'm running with PBO enabled, so I get around 4.1-4.4ghz on all cores, with AVX workloads keeping it sustained at about 3.8Ghz. I've seen some chips are able to boost a single core over 5Ghz, but the highest I've seen is 4.9Ghz (boohoo).

I find myself really impressed by how cool this runs with my Noctua NH-U14S. I was a little worried it might not be up to the task, since my Ryzen 3600 OC'd to 4Ghz still ran fairly warm with it, but the 5950x runs cooler even with PBO. It obviously doesn't run as cool as my old Threadripper 2950x did, but that chip had a lot of surface area to disperse heat, so it would have been unrealistic to expect better from the 5950x.
 
Aug 24, 2021 at 12:42 PM Post #2,520 of 3,145
Just upgraded to a Ryzen 5950x. I really missed seeing so many threads in my task manager. Hah....

I'm super pleased with it. I'm running with PBO enabled, so I get around 4.1-4.4ghz on all cores, with AVX workloads keeping it sustained at about 3.8Ghz. I've seen some chips are able to boost a single core over 5Ghz, but the highest I've seen is 4.9Ghz (boohoo).


I find myself really impressed by how cool this runs with my Noctua NH-U14S. I was a little worried it might not be up to the task, since my Ryzen 3600 OC'd to 4Ghz still ran fairly warm with it, but the 5950x runs cooler even with PBO. It obviously doesn't run as cool as my old Threadripper 2950x did, but that chip had a lot of surface area to disperse heat, so it would have been unrealistic to expect better from the 5950x.
I've gotten my 5950X to 5021MHz for very short bursts during 3dMark runs. I use the Kraken X63, so it's possible that it ekes out just a LITTLE BIT more cooling efficiency to allow the CPU slightly more push than yours, but seriously... who could REALLY tell the difference? So I think you're well within expected tolerances.

I, too, am very happy with my build. It's a monster, and barely breaks a sweat. I have only edited 1080p video files so far, but when I get back to three-camera 4k recordings, I can't wait to see the improvement over my old build (8700k w/32GB RAM and 2080TI with M.2 NVMe).
My current rig is:
AMD 5950X
MSI Suprim X 3090
128GB Neo Trident Z/3200 RAM
1x 2TB Seagate Firecuda gen-4 M.2 (OS and save files)
1x 2TB WD Black SN850 gen4 M.2 (Games and video editing)
1x 4TB 2.5" Samsung 870 QVO SSD (backup and stuff)
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII FORMULA mobo
BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro 1000W PSU
BeQuiet! Dark Base 900 Pro V2 case
Displays: 49" Sony X950H, 55" LG OLED C1
 
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