Wow see that a few posters are recommending 3-500 usd cans! Don't think you need to go that extreme for a decent pair of headphones...
Very true. I think that very decent headphones can be found for $150. It of course depends on what you are looking for.
Have a feeling there is a law of diminishing returns here (you can spend up to a certain value, dollar amount, then the tiny incremental amount of better sound increases exponentially in price!).
Very true again. If you rate both sound quality and costs from 1 to 10 and add up the scores, I
think you'll get the best value for money around $170.
Would suggest 'studio' grade headphones as opposed to 'audiophile/wanker' headphones...**** if pros are happy with them, who listen almost 24/7 to music, good enough for us mere mortals!
Wow, I didn't expect this after reading the first sentences. Starting to call 'audiophiles' wankers is not a subtle opinion to say the least. I consider myself to be an 'audiophile' because I enjoy good audio. That's what the word means, nothing less nothing more.
Now about the pro audio: Yes, those are often very good cans for the money and yes, they are more than good enough for 'mere mortals', but that doesn't mean that people who enjoy listening to music can't get headphones that produce better sound, albeit at 'ridiculous' prices.
Everyone could be satisfied with cans under $250, but audio is a hobby and just like with wine tasting and collecting stamps people make irrational purchases simply because they like what they get for their money. I won't ever purchase a Château Petrus myself ($4000 for a 0.75L bottle), but I once had the rare chance to taste it and YES it was the best wine I ever tasted and I probably won't ever taste a similarly good wine again. Now I'm more into audio than I am into wine, so would I ever buy a Stax SR-009? Probably not, but if I earned a lot of money I wouldn't hesitate to buy one immediately.
Is what the pros use just as good or better than anything else? For you I think it might be and there is nothing wrong with that. But for others I highly doubt it because of different experiences from not only myself, but also from 'non-audiophile' people whose reaction I have seen.
A good example would be the Beyerdynamic T1 I recently sold: The person I sold the headphone to came to audition it with my gear; the T1, a vintage solid state speaker amp and the sound card from my laptop (HP Zbook 15 Mobile Workstation). This person is from the Conservatory and is very knowledgeable about classic music. Because of elder neighbours that go early to bed he needed a headphone in stead of his speaker set up. The first seconds after listening to the music I already could see a smile on his face and then I noticed he had put the headphones on backwards. This is a significant change because the drivers are angled. After he put the headphone on the right way he couldn't contain his happiness: the piano sounded so natural, the voices were so real, he could locate the instruments so easily. It was much more than he had hoped for. He had listened to some cheaper headphones, but even though he was not an 'audiophile' he was glad to pay $575 for the second hand T1.
Don't forget that although they are the most important part of your signal chain, you need to consider your whole signal flow (source quality, dac, preamp, amp, through to your bleeding ears!).
Very true again! I don't understand why you sound so agitated when the word 'audiophile' is in the sentence. You clearly like audio and make some good points!
Have a feeling the 'audiophile' cans available are snakeoil...after all iff noone in studios uses them! Better yet just call a reputable studio, ask what they use...!
I already explained why I think 'audiophile' headphones aren't necessarily a waste of money, but I now would like to explain why studios don't use these more expensive alternatives. Long story short: reputable studios do not only use headphones for reference, but also (ad as far as I know primarily) studio monitors.
Reference grade headphones are useful for different purposes, but most of the recordings are not binaural (recorded for listening with headphones), so a good mastering can not be done with headphones only. Studio monitors already deliver many pieces of information the audio engineer wants to have, so the headphones are there to provide the last bits of information like stereo presentation and in some cases sub-bass. Many studio monitors have a significant roll off in the low frequencies. Headphones are much cheaper than good sub-woofers.
Edit: best of all of course if you can try them out!
The greatest truth of all. Everyone has a different perception of sound and there are even people who dislike the sound of the much appreciated Sennheiser HD600. The best thing is always to try them yourself.