[SonyFan121]

It’s sad that you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

Ah but here's the thing - I do!

 

[SonyFan121]

Here is a little experiment for you to do; get Fostex TH-X00 or TH-900 drivers, put them in an open-back headphone, then compare them to your LCD2, then come back and tell me which headphone has the deepest, most linear, most microscopically accurate bass response. You are in for a surprise!

 

[xRaptorxPunisher]

I'm sorry to disagree, but no - planars do not have better bass extension. Do they have flatter/linear bass? Yes! but do they have lower bass? no! There is no way that a planar magnetic could achieve the level of sub-bass that a dynamic headphone can produce. This is sign of the limitations of the structure of a planar magnetic driver. It is uniform and flat, where as a dynamic driver is 3 dimensional and round, thus capable of reaching the lowest notes.

You're confusing mid bass with sub bass lol dynamics due to driver size and design roll off. Planars have more license extension into the sub bass. I've yet to find a headphone with the sub bass of my LCD-2C.

 

[SonyFan121]

You're confusing mid bass with sub bass lol dynamics due to driver size and design roll off. Planars have more license extension into the sub bass. I've yet to find a headphone with the sub bass of my LCD-2C.

Have you heard the Fostex TH-X00 headphones?

 

[Hifiearspeakers]

Have you heard the Fostex TH-X00 headphones?

Do you ever listen to what others say to you?

 

[SonyFan121]

Do you ever listen to what others say to you?

Of course I do, but I also use my brain to provide my own opinions. Do you?! or do you just insult.

 

[phthora]

I have a set of E-MU Teaks (based on a modded Fostex driver) that I love. The bass is big, round, deep. It envelops the music in a lovely thumping, without sounding uncontrolled or bloated. You can feel it slamming into the ears. I love that. Nothing else I have recreates that sensation.

That said, it's still not as controlled, accurate, deeply extended, or detailed as the comparably priced 400i.

I also have a set of Focal Clear that currently get more head-time than anything else. That bass is very well-extended, quite detailed, and clean in an amazing way. You can hear every note of the bass, nothing bleeds over to where it shouldn't. Even on bass-heavy electronic music, it's a great listen and hits hard.

That said, it's still not as controlled, accurate, deeply extended, or detailed as the much cheaper 560, or LCD-2. Compared to the comparably price LCD-X, it's still not very close.

Which one you like best is your preference, but planars and dynamics have different characteristics. Some of those differences, like distortion and extension are very easily measured too.

 

[The Socialist Nerd]

I just got the LCD-2CB's yesterday and right now I'm driving those through either my Samsung Note 9 /) and Surface Book 2 15 inch )) and they are just awesome. They a tad bright but way more detailed than what my Master and Dynamic MH-40's could ever pull out of a recording, even YouTube music tracks have more verve to the swerve.

 

[xRaptorxPunisher]

Have you heard the Fostex TH-X00 headphones?

Yes.

 

[Hifiearspeakers]

Of course I do, but I also use my brain to provide my own opinions. Do you?! or do you just insult.

First of all, bass extension is measurable, so it’s not a matter of opinion. Second of all, do you even know what an insult is? Because the last time I checked, I have never called you a bad name. I said you’re wrong, which you are, and then I asked you a question. Several people in here have attempted to point out your misunderstanding of what you’re claiming, and you’re clearly not listening to them.

As @phthora said, there is a difference between preferring a certain amount of sub bass quantity or mid bass quantity and then talking about sub bass extension capabilities. So preferring a certain quantity of bass is subjective and to each their own. But sub bass extension is objectively measurable. And anyone who knows anything about the inherent pros and cons of planar vs dynamic, knows that a good planar obliterates any dynamic headphone in terms of bass extension. It’s not even a close battle.

 

[SonyFan121]

Unfortunately I don't currently have the equipment to measure a frequency response of my TH500RP that has TH-X00 Purpleheart drivers, but here is a FR measurement of the $1,900 Fostex TH909. The TH909 is the green line (the yellow one is a Sennheiser HD800). Check out how linear that bass response is!

https://audio46.com/blogs/headphones/bass-head-heaven-fostex-th909-review

 

[phthora]

Boy, that looks very linear when graphed in 10db increments. Looks like roll-off starts at 35hz though. Good for $2000 dynamics, maybe. Not great compared to these currently $350 planars released 5 years ago, which roll-off at 15 hz and are much more linear in the bass on their 5db increment scale.

https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE5602014.pdf

More TH909 graphs here:
https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/i...:fostex-th909-headphones&catid=263&Itemid=203

 

[Hifiearspeakers]

And here’s a frequency response to the LCD 2 Fazor, which used to be the entry level LCD line before the Classic. You can see that it has almost no roll off all the way down to 10hz.

 

[bagwell359]

Have you heard the Fostex TH-X00 headphones?

Yes, owned a set for over a year. Bombastic bass. Hardly any low bass. Hfm he-6, ananda, HEX v2, and lcd2 and lcd3 all produce more 'sub' bass and more linear bass than either the xoo mahogany or ebony nor do they break up as badly with very loud and/or complex input