[imagic]

I could not find these results within this thread so I figured I would post a link:

Pioneer SE-A1000 Charts measured via Tyll Hetsens at Innerfidelity.com

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/PioneerSEA1000.pdf

The charts remind me a tad of a Grado headphones.  Flat in the midrange, slightly peaky in the treble, and some serious roll off in the bass.  This includes the strangely shaped square wave responses.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/GradoSR60i.pdf

Heck if they are more comfortable than a Grado and sound similar it might be a great option for tons of people out there.

That sums up their appeal, right there. Very Grado-like IMO, but wearable for hours instead of minutes.

 

[CrystalT]

imho they compare favorably with the 325i from my experience. i ended up returning mine and keeping the pioneers.

though my pioneer head time has been significantly lower sinc getting shure srh840.

removed the felt from the front of the drivers, and though treble extension is much better, it sounds.... weird.

 

[TekeRugburn]

The treble has better extension without the felt but becomes more harsh than it was. Why I added some acoustic foam to help dampen it.

 

[CrystalT]

it's not that it's harsh. i hear some sort of ringing in the mid frequencies. vocals sound off.

 

[kvtaco17]

Crack em open and goto town with some felt!

 

[TekeRugburn]

Ringing/harshness is alleviated by dampening. Mids sound about the same... A little more forward if anything

 

[CrystalT]

whats some cheap felt? hardware stores here in az only sell em in ridiculous quantities.

 

[TekeRugburn]

whats some cheap felt? hardware stores here in az only sell em in ridiculous quantities.

Go to hobby lobby, Michaels or any arts and crafts store. If you want I can send a sheet of acoustic foam... It'd be more than enough to mod the headphones. Just pay for shipping.

 

[TekeRugburn]

Decided to go with stock grado cables as they look more oem/factory than the OFC wire.

 

[Achmedisdead]

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Decided to go with stock grado cables as they look more oem/factory than the OFC wire.

Those cables drove me nuts when I had my SR60i. 

 

[TekeRugburn]

Those cables drove me nuts when I had my SR60i. 

Why so? I had them on my ksc75 before but are too bulky for portable use so I switched the OFC cable for the grado cable. Now the ksc75 is more portable and the pioneer is still dual entry. The grados have cardas cables now

 

[Argyris]

I've never understood the allure of dual-entry cables. They annoy me ergonomically, and the theoretical sonic benefit of not routing the cable through the headband isn't enough to keep me up at night (call me a skeptic, I guess). Granted, my most recent experience might not have been the best. I found the SR225i cable to be thick, heavy, and stiff. Maybe it would be better with a more supple cable.
 
Is there something I'm missing here? There's got to be a compelling reason people would actually go out of their way to convert a headphone to dual-entry.

 

[TekeRugburn]

Well other than the channel imbalance, which can be seen with the graph in the OP, I never liked the thought of having one cable side longer than the other.

I still prefer dual entry over single sided. Maybe I'm just one of those cable guys. I prefer the grado cable to the stock one as its shorter, I don't need 10 yards of cable.

 

[pez]

The cable that was on my set of SR60s was thinner than my now recabled SR325i.  Even the vanilla cable on my 325is was thinner than their newer cable.  I like the newer cable, but still is very prone to twisting like the others before it.  My favorite cable so far is the HD 600 and HD 650 cable, albeit they are a bit weighty.  They do not constantly try to molest my face, however.

 

[wafflezz]

Is it just me or are the hd681s just flat out superior going by innerfidelity graphs?
Admittedly...they're obviously not the best and I wouldn't use their data as a final say all
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SuperluxHD681.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/PioneerSEA1000.pdf