[mikechai]

Anyone have the Philips HP1000 here? A brief review is much appreciated.

And I heard that the HP1000 is pretty hard to drive.
Even the x-can v3 is barely able to drive it well...
At least that's what I heard.

What is the suitable amp for this headphone? Anyone?

 

[knuxed]

Mike,you can find the review on The Star Website.Look thorugh the Audiofile Page.

 

[Drake]

HP-1000 are pretty hard to drive, i use my audigy2 zs to drive them, and i can push the bass as far and low as i wish without any kind of distortion or clipping, so the audigy2 is powerfull enough, if i use the hp1000 on my mp3 player or my laptop, i wil have very little bass and i can't boost it becouse the mp3 player is to weak and the soundcard in the laptop is even weaker.

basicly you need a strong low ohm amplifier, or a soundcard with a strong output.

(review from the star website, by the way i don't agree with the reviewer what he says about the hp1000 )
http://202.186.86.35/audio/story.asp...file/08philips

strange thing is, the reviewer calles them "basslight", but when you boost the bass you can put in it as much as you want, they just won't clip or distort (when running a subwoofer test with the boost on wil couse a headache to me

), bass is not bloated at all, just cut them at a 40-60 hz with the bass boost.

 

[mikechai]

Thanks Drake!

I will be using a modded E-MU 0404.
I hope it can at least drive them to a reasonable volume....

 

[mikechai]

I wonder why Philips HP1000 is so unpopular....

 

[Blizzard]

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Originally Posted by mikechai I wonder why Philips HP1000 is so unpopular....

Yeah me too. I have been offered a used pair of those, for 65€ and I'm considering buying them for use at work. They did really great in a test in the swedish Hifi & Musik magazine. They where second with 5 stars, right behind Sennheiser HD650(5+ stars). Others in the test where Sennheiser HD-600, Grado SR325, Beyer DT880 ,Sony MRD CD580, Sony CD2000... So not a bad league. Are they really that great? But nobody knows about them?-)

 

[dogday]

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They did really great in a test in the swedish Hifi & Musik magazine. They where second with 5 stars, right behind Sennheiser HD650(5+ stars).

I read that test too.. and I wouldn't rely on it too much. Perhaps the HD-650 was the best of those 'phones, but reading the review I got the feeling that

a) they were not really good at reviewing headphones (almost no mention of what amps were used etc.)
b) advertising money got their say

This doesn't mean that I believe the HP-1000 to be a bad headphone; in fact, I'd really like to try it. Especially after I've got my DT880's, which the HP-1000, according to the review, should be on par with (I don't think so).

 

[Blizzard]

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Originally Posted by dogday I read that test too.. and I wouldn't rely on it too much. Perhaps the HD-650 was the best of those 'phones, but reading the review I got the feeling that a) they were not really good at reviewing headphones (almost no mention of what amps were used etc.) b) advertising money got their say This doesn't mean that I believe the HP-1000 to be a bad headphone; in fact, I'd really like to try it. Especially after I've got my DT880's, which the HP-1000, according to the review, should be on par with (I don't think so).

The picture at the first page shows a MF X-Can V3, but the text doesn't tell you anything about what amps and sources they used, not very professional I think. They should use different kinds of amps and tell you how well they suited different phones. They say about some phones that they are well suited for portable players(philips and sony), but have they really tried those?

Also I don't like their way of using stars. There is no way to compare older tests to new ones, as the best in a test usually gets five stars, even when comparing cheap equipment.

I don't know about advertising money, but the magazine has a tendency to give very great reviews to the swedish loudspeaker manufacturer, AudioPro, which I consider mostly quite bad loudspeakers. So they aren't trully objective. But then many other magazines and sites do the same thing

 

[Tim D]

I'd have them already if they weren't out of stock or so damn hard to get in the US. Philips USA doesn't even acknowledge their existance. *sigh* If I can't find a good store I may end up just getting yet another HD600 which I have on order but won't be in stock til January. Still it'd be nice to have a 2005 SennHD600 with 5 years warranty I suppose to go with my 650's, but I'd prefer something different.

 

[EyeAmEye]

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Originally Posted by Tim D I'd have them already if they weren't out of stock or so damn hard to get in the US. Philips USA doesn't even acknowledge their existance. *sigh* If I can't find a good store I may end up just getting yet another HD600 which I have on order but won't be in stock til January. Still it'd be nice to have a 2005 SennHD600 with 5 years warranty I suppose to go with my 650's, but I'd prefer something different.

Have you tried searching with froogle.com? There are a few places in the US that claim to have the Philips HP1000, all for less than $85, most around $75.

I won one on Ebay a few months back for $40, and they are an absolute steal. I drive them straight through my Rio Karma, and yes they are a bit difficult to drive, but not too bad. I don't even find them to be basslight without an amp, either. Never heard them amped, but they sound excellent with the Karma, anyway.

I like the Philips so much I sold my SR225 woodies, and use the HP1000 as my primary can. They easily outclass the Senn HD595, AKG 240S, AKG 271S, Senn HD25-1. I prefer them over the SR225 woody, SR325, Beyer DT440.

 

[Tim D]

I'll give it another shot (but a lot of stores either say they are out of stock or claim they are in stock when they aren't). I have til January to find something good so it shouldn't be hard.

BTW let me know if you got yours new from some store from ebay or not. 5 year warranty or not I think its probably more fun to try something new (and at half the price). I'd use mine with a MAD Ear+ which is just awesome with low-z cans. For example they can drive Grado HP1000's with ease which are also low-z but not especially high sensitivity cans. And then there are the Grace 901's that can do much the same. Anyways I'll renew my efforts to grab a pair.

 

[EyeAmEye]

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Originally Posted by Tim D I'll give it another shot (but a lot of stores either say they are out of stock or claim they are in stock when they aren't). I have til January to find something good so it shouldn't be hard. BTW let me know if you got yours new from some store from ebay or not. 5 year warranty or not I think its probably more fun to try something new (and at half the price). I'd use mine with a MAD Ear+ which is just awesome with low-z cans. For example they can drive Grado HP1000's with ease which are also low-z but not especially high sensitivity cans. And then there are the Grace 901's that can do much the same. Anyways I'll renew my efforts to grab a pair.

I didn't get it from an ebay store, just a random seller. It was brand-new, though. It comes in a nice little storage case, too. Nothing real fancy, but better than most.

I did some froogling, if you haven't done so:
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Philips+HP+1000

 

[Tim D]

Been there, done that. They all seem to be mass cheapo electronics storefronts off the same distributors which no longer have them and are already considered 'discontinued'. Not to mention most Philips headphones are not really acknowledged by the US corporate office as even existing so you really aren't getting much reliable service/warranty that you may get overseas. I've tried at least 5 storefronts some of which were clueless trying to unload some Sony DJ700's on me when they finally figured out they really didn't have any in stock (after realizing I wasn't talking about Maxwell 1000's).

 

[EyeAmEye]

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Originally Posted by Tim D Been there, done that. They all seem to be mass cheapo electronics storefronts off the same distributors which no longer have them and are already considered 'discontinued'. Not to mention most Philips headphones are not really acknowledged by the US corporate office as even existing so you really aren't getting much reliable service/warranty that you may get overseas. I've tried at least 5 storefronts some of which were clueless trying to unload some Sony DJ700's on me when they finally figured out they really didn't have any in stock (after realizing I wasn't talking about Maxwell 1000's).

And the one I scored off Ebay has been the last I've seen of them since. They are pretty hard to find, too bad the places listed claim to have it in stock and don't. Gotta like them trying to pawn a piece of trash on you with the Sony though. Real class acts.

Knowing how good the HP1000 is now, I wouldn't think twice about ordering them from a reliable European dealer. Their price/performance ratio is unbeatable.

 

[Andrea]

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Originally Posted by EyeAmEye They easily outclass the Senn HD595, AKG 240S, AKG 271S, Senn HD25-1. I prefer them over the SR225 woody, SR325, Beyer DT440.

I find this hard to believe on an 'absolute' ground.
The HP1000, according to their specifications on Philips web site, have mylar diaphragm speakers, for instance: quite an unsophisticated material in my understanding - those used by the major companies *should* be better materials, more specialised, studied for the purpose.
Not to mention the gap in experience when dealing with 'headphone acoustics' problems.
I don't know, it sounds unreasonable.
They may have a more 'attractive' sound, but I wonder if they sound truly 'competent' in 'critical' parameters.
Of course, only accurate listening could tell...! And here I disengage myself, due to the lack of it.