PC Enthusiast-Fi (PC Gaming/Hardware/Software/Overclocking)

Dec 14, 2013 at 4:41 AM Post #3,721 of 9,120
Are you using a USB soundcard? Sometimes those things don't get out of sleep mode properly. Check your USB power setting and see if something fishy is going on.

 
No, I'm using my trusty X-Fi Titanium HD here. USB audio devices actually tend NOT to do that on this same system, as I've tested.
 
The weirder part is that if I leave the system at stock CPU clocks, it won't go mute, though the first few seconds sound kinda distorted as it's waking up.
 
However, I didn't pay up for an i7-4770K, a Maximus VI Hero, and a custom water-cooling loop just to leave it at stock, either! I'm aiming to hit 4.5-4.6 GHz out of this thing, but I'm heat-walled with LinX 0.6.5 and Prime95 28.1 without delidding.
 
Dec 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM Post #3,722 of 9,120
   
No, I'm using my trusty X-Fi Titanium HD here. USB audio devices actually tend NOT to do that on this same system, as I've tested.
 
The weirder part is that if I leave the system at stock CPU clocks, it won't go mute, though the first few seconds sound kinda distorted as it's waking up.
 
However, I didn't pay up for an i7-4770K, a Maximus VI Hero, and a custom water-cooling loop just to leave it at stock, either! I'm aiming to hit 4.5-4.6 GHz out of this thing, but I'm heat-walled with LinX 0.6.5 and Prime95 28.1 without delidding.

Hmm, have you investigated chipset and X-Fi driver updates?
 
Dec 14, 2013 at 6:14 PM Post #3,723 of 9,120
Hmm, have you investigated chipset and X-Fi driver updates?

I keep my drivers as up-to-date as possible, even checking for driver and BIOS updates every month. What computer enthusiast wouldn't?

Creative's rather sluggish on the X-Fi driver updates, though. I even have to manually replace components in the driver installer folder as Creative releases new ones, something I didn't have to do with Auzentech's X-Fi cards...
 
Dec 14, 2013 at 6:30 PM Post #3,724 of 9,120
I keep my drivers as up-to-date as possible, even checking for driver and BIOS updates every month. What computer enthusiast wouldn't?

Creative's rather sluggish on the X-Fi driver updates, though. I even have to manually replace components in the driver installer folder as Creative releases new ones, something I didn't have to do with Auzentech's X-Fi cards...

Sounds like the X-Fi driver is a good suspect then. Have you tried reinstalling the driver from scratch? Other than that, if it bugs you too much, get a different card IMO.
 
Dec 14, 2013 at 6:58 PM Post #3,725 of 9,120
I keep my drivers as up-to-date as possible, even checking for driver and BIOS updates every month. What computer enthusiast wouldn't?

Creative's rather sluggish on the X-Fi driver updates, though. I even have to manually replace components in the driver installer folder as Creative releases new ones, something I didn't have to do with Auzentech's X-Fi cards...

 
Didn't you hear about all the horror stories with X-Fi drivers before you made the purchase? That's why I went with the Asus Xonar sound cards instead.
 
Kind of a waste though, I use an external DAC now... 
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Dec 14, 2013 at 8:38 PM Post #3,726 of 9,120
Creative updates seem to be a yearly occurrence, certainly the driver for my X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro (stupid name) was released on January 3rd 2013.  I guess if it aint broke dont fix it...
 
For a new Windows install always manually download and install the driver, control panel, and Dolby pack if you need it.
 
Dec 14, 2013 at 10:22 PM Post #3,727 of 9,120
  Good post. Programming is about problem solving, not learning the syntax. A mistake most of us has made once or twice.

The first step in any computing relating scenario is to identify the problem and analyze it.
EDIT: Funniest flow chart on Bing (Yeah.. Using Bing now.)  I just recently had all my accounts from Lavabit moved off to Gmail (took me a couple of weeks for most), but eventually going to sever gmail as well.  Why?  Because Google is completely anti-WP8 haha

 
 
Hah, without the BIOS deal, my linux setup boots in like 4 seconds. <3
So I had a big programming contest in java, it was the written exam and not programming though... I'm currently in a 2A school (wanting to go to a charter), and this competition was with around 60 kids from 5A schools and schiit... I got second mofos! xD (And I'm only a freshman)

Did you find a way to make Java secure?  lol
 
  Each has its own uses.
 
WEI isn't the most Enthusiast usable suite.
 
But it allows a person to easilly compare between computers at Best Buy.

+1, its usually a pretty easy indicator of what experience you will be getting.  Even if you have killer gaming hardware, a poor HDD will pull the score down enough to let the average user inquire specifics.
 
   
Why?, isn't that a waste of an SSD? (unless you have a 60GB drive for boot purposes only)
 
Unless you have a boatload of games installed at once, you should really be taking advantage of the SSD for better load times. Even all my downloads go straight to my desktop, for instant seeking in anime!

My green drive seeks fast enough,
 
   
Didn't you hear about all the horror stories with X-Fi drivers before you made the purchase? That's why I went with the Asus Xonar sound cards instead.
 
Kind of a waste though, I use an external DAC now... 
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Xonar has a worse reputation AFAIK.  To be completely honest, Xonar is perfect until you get a new audio device installed/try upgrading software.
 
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Anyone finding joy with the Samsung 840 Pro?  I just saw an enticing article that held me back on purchasing a unit.  It looks as if the Samsung degrades pretty quick until the next TRIM, more so than most SSDs tested (including those dating back to AG3/Vector3).
 
Just like most benchmarks, really depends on how you use a SSD.  Linux is obviously going to suffer on default distro configurations.  Nvdia nForce motherboards do not send TRIM afaik.  Windows is a mystery to me, but I do believe that on NTFS a TRIM gets sent after around 2 hours of moderate reads/writes.  (from experience with my SSD)
 
I'll have to see what Dell put in our $10k workstation (after rebate :head-roll:) ..  Really is a waste.  Last time we got a workstation it saw minimal use, but in 3-5 years when they write it off, another free workstation
 
EDIT:  Forgot to mention it is going to run a variant of Windoze 8, and has a quad xeon configuration (I was told it was 64 core, but I am skeptical).
 
Dec 15, 2013 at 12:06 AM Post #3,728 of 9,120
Sigh. All the Valve and Linux fanbois/gurls are out of the woodwork now. Stupid SteamOS. Mention that you're not interested in another linux distro or further proliferation of gaming standards and you'll get jumped all over because you didn't immediately bow down and suck the joystick of your new Linux based gaming overlords.
 
Dec 15, 2013 at 1:40 AM Post #3,730 of 9,120
Didn't you hear about all the horror stories with X-Fi drivers before you made the purchase? That's why I went with the Asus Xonar sound cards instead.  
Kind of a waste though, I use an external DAC now... 
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It usually works fine (was less fidgety on my old Q6600 box, though), and I am NOT doing without hardware DirectSound3D/OpenAL and EAX 5, even if only Battlefield 2/2142 use the latter feature and I benefit more over all my games from not having to deal with Creative's software OpenAL renderer.
 
Plus, in my testing, I prefer CMSS-3D Headphone to Dolby Headphone and just about everything else for PC gaming. DH is good, but ultimately limited in trying to replicate a home theater speaker system instead of the actual in-game environment. THX feels like a big step back in positional accuracy. SBX seems mostly like THX rebranded, but I'll hold out for someone to loan me a Z-series card before I pass judgment.
 
Keep in mind that I'm pretty damn insistent on my sound cards. If you look at my retrogaming box, it has no less than an AWE64 Gold (which I'd replace with an AWE32 if I could just get a case that would fit the damn thing; it's still longer than most modern graphics cards), a Turtle Beach Montego II for Aureal A3D support, and my old Auzentech X-Fi Prelude. Even then, I still feel like I should throw a Roland CM-500, or at least a CM-32L, into that setup...
 
Oh, yeah, and for the record, I've heard plenty of complaints about Xonar drivers too, hence the Xonar Unified Driver pack. Realtek codec drivers get slammed hard too. And even back in the day, Aureal had driver complaints with the Vortex chipset cards. You find any kind of audio device with drivers, SOMEONE is going to have horror stories and write about how they're the worst drivers ever, no matter what device it is.
 
Every product just sucks in its own way, I suppose. Maybe I'll just have to get used to shutting down entirely instead of using sleep mode.
 
*re-reads the entire post after a moment* Oh dear god, I came across as way too overdefensive with all that.
 
Dec 15, 2013 at 2:10 AM Post #3,731 of 9,120
   
(which I'd replace with an AWE32 if I could just get a case that would fit the damn thing; it's still longer than most modern graphics cards)

 
He he i have two of those monsters with the memory slots and all, just bring myself to part with them.  I also have an MCV, Pro, 16, Vibra 16, AWE 64, Live, Audigy, Audigy 2...
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Dec 15, 2013 at 3:12 AM Post #3,732 of 9,120
He he i have two of those monsters with the memory slots and all, just bring myself to part with them.  I also have an MCV, Pro, 16, Vibra 16, AWE 64, Live, Audigy, Audigy 2...
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That's quite the collection there, enough to give a lot of the other VOGONS folk some competition. I'm guessing the SB Pro is the 1.0 revision with dual OPL2s?
 
Speaking of said memory slots, I maxed out my AWE32 with 32 MB (28 MB accessible) of the stuff. There's this nice "CHORIUM.SF2" SoundFont I stumbled upon somewhere that just manages to fit into that, so I can use the same SoundFont on that ancient AWE32 that I do on my X-Fi cards.
 
So in other news, I decided to start tweaking my overclock again and realized something with extended LinX testing: it wasn't stable. Core was undervolted, so I raised the VID from 1.2V to 1.22V, which seems to have sorted it out. Too bad a thermal wall keeps me from going past 4.4 GHz on a custom water loop; I need to delid this damn thing. (And maybe put some more/better fans than the three SFF21Fs on that Black Ice GTX 360, since it's so thick and dense.)
 
What I didn't expect it to sort out was the "X-Fi going deaf upon waking back up" problem. It's as if this card is really sensitive to overclocking instability.
 
Dec 17, 2013 at 8:29 PM Post #3,734 of 9,120
It may be because of my OCD, but this is seriously bugging me.

Get a wire cover that attaches to the wall and paint over it to match the color the wall :)
 

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