Oriolus Traillii Electrostatic Hybrid IEM discussion thread
May 3, 2021 at 5:48 PM Post #1,081 of 8,027
You may want to audition Ely first. For me, the Traillii is superior in every way and I own the Ely. My Ely is a custom. White good bass considering it is a single BA driving the bass, it just does not compare. On top of that the Traillii easily matches and exceeds in the mids and treble. Other IEM’s might be more complimentary to the Traillii. Now if you just want one because it is gorgeous, don’t let me stop you.

The Ely is excellent on EDM by the way. The bass is not really that low and the Ely can punch in the upper bass and mids.
Thank you so much for your thoughts on that. The Elysium intrigues me...but I have not heard it....I’m quite positive I don’t need any other iem’s than what I have but the itch never seems to go away! Ely,Erlky,Thummin, LX and Mason FS are what I’m eyeing for my next purchase....I would def throw down on Erlky if one ever becomes available again....or maybe It will have a predecessor soon.....VE I’m looking at YOU 😬
 
May 3, 2021 at 6:48 PM Post #1,082 of 8,027
it's said on a near daily basis...and that's ok, because this is the place to gush about the the bird...

...but bass on the traillii is probably the most impressive accomplishment I've heard to date from iem driver tuning.

other noteworthy tuning achievements for me are tia treble (though I feel that next-gen estats now comfortably surpass tia on clarity, energy, and naturalness,) w9 bass, and elysium single-driver ba bass.

for overall iem tuning, I still think elysium is super unique, and erlky impresses me most for an all-ba config, and...of course, since this is the place...

the bird takes the top overall iem tuning to date to my ears.

tweet.
So elysium is one of your favorite?
 
May 3, 2021 at 9:55 PM Post #1,083 of 8,027
elysium is a fantastic iem, no doubt. in the ~$2k range, it is one of my top choices.

I'd also put the lxse (which, quite surprisingly, seems to be dropping in value since I sold mine not too long ago,) and the u12t in the same company as well...the choice of which to pick being dictated by the listener's sound and music preferences.

ve's house sound is one of my favorites overall; steeped in emotion, engagement, and musicality.

there are a few caveats to the elysium, however, which do not, I believe, take away from the elysium's success as an overall package and well-tuned iem...but, they are caveats nonetheless. the way the elysium is tuned is extremely unique, and therefore, requires a bit of "acquired taste" to occur in order for this iem to bring the listener maximum satisfaction.

caveat 1 - elysium's bass is light in the signature

this is NOT a fault (a caveat on top of a caveat, yes!) but it is a fact. however, ve has a good reason for this: the elysium is tuned with lighter bass (albeit, very impressive bass from a single ba driver,) to let the dd mids shine. this gives the elysium a somewhat ethereal presentation, especially in conjunction with the lighter-energy estat highs. whether or not you like the elysium's sound in the long-term will depend simply on whether or not the maximum bass the elysium provides is sufficient for your tastes. if bass is enough, this is a non-issue...but if the bass is too light, it can be a dealbreaker.

while this is undoubtedly the biggest caveat when I recommend the elysium to people, I think there's another noteworthy caveat as well...

caveat 2 - elysium's soundstage width is on the smaller side

elysium's soundstage is not very wide. this may or may not be an issue depending on what you're looking for. I also do not think the elysium's soundstage is nearly as much of a potential issue as its bass presentation can be, but it's worth noting.

it's also true that both of these caveats become more noticeable once you've heard more expensive iems, or specific "specialists" in the areas of bass or soundstage. this means that if the elysium is first ~$2k iem you've heard, it's quite possible that its staging and bass presentations may completely blow you away.
 
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May 3, 2021 at 10:10 PM Post #1,084 of 8,027
elysium is a fantastic iem, no doubt. in the ~$2k range, it is one of my top choices.

I'd also put the lxse (which, quite surprisingly, seems to be dropping in value since I sold mine not too long ago,) and the u12t in the same company as well...the choice of which to pick being dictated by the listener's sound and music preferences.

ve's house sound is one of my favorites overall; steeped in emotion, engagement, and musicality.

there are a few caveats to the elysium, however, which do not, I believe, take away from the elysium's success as an overall package and well-tuned iem...but, they are caveats nonetheless. the way the elysium is tuned is extremely unique, and therefore, requires a bit of "acquired taste" to occur in order for this iem to bring the listener maximum satisfaction.

caveat 1 - elysium's bass is light in the signature

this is NOT a fault (a caveat on top of a caveat, yes!) but it is a fact. however, ve has a good reason for this: the elysium is tuned with lighter bass (albeit, very impressive bass from a single ba driver,) to let the dd mids shine. this gives the elysium a somewhat ethereal presentation, especially in conjunction with the lighter-energy estat highs. whether or not you like the elysium's sound in the long-term will depend simply on whether or not the maximum bass the elysium provides is sufficient for your tastes. if bass is enough, this is a non-issue...but if the bass is too light, it can be a dealbreaker.

while this is undoubtedly the biggest caveat when I recommend the elysium to people, I think there's another noteworthy caveat as well...

caveat 2 - elysium's sounstage width is on the smaller side

elysium's soundstage is not very wide. this may or may not be an issue depending on what you're looking for. I also do not think the elysium's soundstage is nearly as much of a potential issue as its bass presentation can be, but it's worth noting.

it's also true that both of these caveats become more noticeable once you've heard more expensive iems, or specific "specialists" in the areas of bass or soundstage. this means that if the elysium is first ~$2k iem you've heard, it's quite possible that its staging and bass presentations may completely blow you away.
Yeah agree.
 
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May 3, 2021 at 10:11 PM Post #1,085 of 8,027
^ honestly, I don't understand why lxse appears to be less in favor at the moment.

it's a shame.

:sob:
 
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May 3, 2021 at 10:12 PM Post #1,086 of 8,027
elysium is a fantastic iem, no doubt. in the ~$2k range, it is one of my top choices.

I'd also put the lxse (which, quite surprisingly, seems to be dropping in value since I sold mine not too long ago,) and the u12t in the same company as well...the choice of which to pick being dictated by the listener's sound and music preferences.

ve's house sound is one of my favorites overall; steeped in emotion, engagement, and musicality.

there are a few caveats to the elysium, however, which do not, I believe, take away from the elysium's success as an overall package and well-tuned iem...but, they are caveats nonetheless. the way the elysium is tuned is extremely unique, and therefore, requires a bit of "acquired taste" to occur in order for this iem to bring the listener maximum satisfaction.

caveat 1 - elysium's bass is light in the signature

this is NOT a fault (a caveat on top of a caveat, yes!) but it is a fact. however, ve has a good reason for this: the elysium is tuned with lighter bass (albeit, very impressive bass from a single ba driver,) to let the dd mids shine. this gives the elysium a somewhat ethereal presentation, especially in conjunction with the lighter-energy estat highs. whether or not you like the elysium's sound in the long-term will depend simply on whether or not the maximum bass the elysium provides is sufficient for your tastes. if bass is enough, this is a non-issue...but if the bass is too light, it can be a dealbreaker.

while this is undoubtedly the biggest caveat when I recommend the elysium to people, I think there's another noteworthy caveat as well...

caveat 2 - elysium's sounstage width is on the smaller side

elysium's soundstage is not very wide. this may or may not be an issue depending on what you're looking for. I also do not think the elysium's soundstage is nearly as much of a potential issue as its bass presentation can be, but it's worth noting.

it's also true that both of these caveats become more noticeable once you've heard more expensive iems, or specific "specialists" in the areas of bass or soundstage. this means that if the elysium is first ~$2k iem you've heard, it's quite possible that its staging and bass presentations may completely blow you away.
I think of the Elysium for times when I am trying to relax. And when I want to really listen to vocals. That is how I use it, normally at night. I would not grab the Elysium first thing in the morning. I think your assessment is right on the mark.

Shell design and flatness is also a note worthy differentiator.

I think that someone interested in this IEM should hear before buying. I did that and AB compared to Traillii and still bought one, it did something magical with vocals for me.
 
May 3, 2021 at 10:15 PM Post #1,087 of 8,027
elysium vocals are among the best I've heard.
 
May 3, 2021 at 11:00 PM Post #1,088 of 8,027
the bird is flying across the Atlantic toward me, gonna make it to my isle Thursday :)

speaking of collector's "I think I'm gonna get that next" moments, the dita x final cooperation is very inviting to me -- just as a collector of IEM's which it appears I'm turning into now. being a single-dynamic which I always admire.

if I ever have ears for something after the bird that'll be it. though it's probably source-rolling for me after the trailli. I have a c9 which I hear will be very nice with the bird indeed. it's fed by an sp2000 however, and I'm thinking of LP6 pro probably in the future. or LPGTi. would like a very good line out. SP2000 is excellent, EXCELLENT with the c9 but yeah, rolling options would be good. thinkin sp2000 -- c9 -- trailli will probably carry me through a month or two.
 
May 3, 2021 at 11:03 PM Post #1,089 of 8,027
the bird is flying across the Atlantic toward me, gonna make it to my isle Thursday :)

speaking of collector's "I think I'm gonna get that next" moments, the dita x final cooperation is very inviting to me -- just as a collector of IEM's which it appears I'm turning into now. being a single-dynamic which I always admire.

if I ever have ears for something after the bird that'll be it. though it's probably source-rolling for me after the trailli. I have a c9 which I hear will be very nice with the bird indeed. it's fed by an sp2000 however, and I'm thinking of LP6 pro probably in the future. or LPGTi. would like a very good line out. SP2000 is excellent, EXCELLENT with the c9 but yeah, rolling options would be good. thinkin sp2000 -- c9 -- trailli will probably carry me through a month or two.
Congrats!

Just one added quick note, C9 is particularly good with 1DD as well. Been thinking about that SK myself.
 
May 3, 2021 at 11:10 PM Post #1,090 of 8,027
Congrats!

Just one added quick note, C9 is particularly good with 1DD as well. Been thinking about that SK myself.

Exactly, that's what I've heard too. Doesn't hurt that it's gorgeous either. The Elysium never invited me because its looks are not for me. If we're talking crazy IEM collector moments then, actually, I'd love to have the new JH Audio Jolene too. There are some truly incredible looking options for the Jolene custom visually, and since my first TOTL IEM was the first gen Layla, I have soft spot for the JH Audio analogue rock sound. Though that's way down the line. Also, like many here I'm very interested in the first reviews of the Unique Melody bone conduction IEM. I was not very drawn to the long production times and preordering etc. Felt like snobbery. Restaurant table booking vibes. But the IEM seems very interesting.
 
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May 4, 2021 at 12:13 AM Post #1,091 of 8,027
TRAILLII is the QUEEN of my heart when it comes to bass response. My favorite bass I have ever heard and coming from a BA!!
Traillii bass is perfectly fast, natural, resolute, textured, articulate and while not growling in your face you still get that texture with blissful definition. The bass never dominates or distorts
Same here. This whole time I was trying to find a DD that had the perfect myriad of clarity, power, extension, control, and speed to only fall short on one or more. Trailli’s bass honestly finds the special balance and is also my favorite bass up to date.
 
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May 4, 2021 at 12:21 AM Post #1,092 of 8,027
the bird is flying across the Atlantic toward me, gonna make it to my isle Thursday :)

speaking of collector's "I think I'm gonna get that next" moments, the dita x final cooperation is very inviting to me -- just as a collector of IEM's which it appears I'm turning into now. being a single-dynamic which I always admire.

if I ever have ears for something after the bird that'll be it. though it's probably source-rolling for me after the trailli. I have a c9 which I hear will be very nice with the bird indeed. it's fed by an sp2000 however, and I'm thinking of LP6 pro probably in the future. or LPGTi. would like a very good line out. SP2000 is excellent, EXCELLENT with the c9 but yeah, rolling options would be good. thinkin sp2000 -- c9 -- trailli will probably carry me through a month or two.
I preferred lpgt vs ti with traillii in my recent demo, fwiw.

they’re both great though.
 
May 4, 2021 at 3:06 AM Post #1,093 of 8,027
Oh god the large tips are hard to roll on the thick nozzle. Wide bore tips.
I might have to find my SpinFit when I get home.

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Arrived today. Need to do some tip rolling. I suspect the Hugo2 would be too bright for it (will find out when I get home). Out of the SP2000 I'm liking what I hear. Whether it's $6000US like, I'm yet to pass judgement. The detail and clarity are definitely TOTL though.
 
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May 4, 2021 at 3:30 PM Post #1,094 of 8,027
Oh god the large tips are hard to roll on the thick nozzle. Wide bore tips.
I might have to find my SpinFit when I get home.

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Arrived today. Need to do some tip rolling. I suspect the Hugo2 would be too bright for it (will find out when I get home). Out of the SP2000 I'm liking what I hear. Whether it's $6000US like, I'm yet to pass judgement. The detail and clarity are definitely TOTL though.
Congratulations - you got THE BEST IEM in the market as of today - full stop. Be happy !!! And yes, SpinFit are a great choice. A very good alternative to that one is Azla SednaEarfits. I tested both and both are good to me, more bass, more clarity, better soundstage. There is nothing really to add to it, you simply reached the current pinnacle of IEM's, we'll see who will be able to break this record in the future !
 

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